Any US Expatriates here?

[mapuc]

Thou older you are thou difficult it is to adapt to a new country. Especially if the language and culture is far from what you are comfortable with

Markus

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

What the hell,Life getting a little to tough for ya? 1,2,an3 Are ri·dic·u·lous.So Joe and the Democrats aren't turning out the way you envisioned? And now you want to leave.You should have left this country when Donald trump was the President. Lol there will be no fuel no airplanes no ships for you rat's to leave on. Guess what you will have to stay here with the rest of the sheep.

And embrace the future that was voted for! And for all you young voters it will mean sooner or later getting blisters on your hands working all those shovel ready jobs they promised. Look when the power outages start your not going to be able to play games all day and it will be to hot to stay inside.

You want to get out of the USA. You want to go abroad help people, Repair the damage humans have done to mother earth, sleep under the stars and live your dreams of Democracy. Catch the next flight to Ukraine and show the world,your friends and family that you are going to make a difference somewhere on this planet.Cause life in America sucks.

Actually, 1,2,3 are not ridiculous, quite easy to verify those claims.

My life is quite fine actually, but I see how things continue to decline here, no major systemic issues really get solved, see so many fellow americans suffering and it will not be any better for majority my generation.

Btw, my answer has nothing to do a political candidate or party, both major parties are wings of same bird and perpetuate same problems day after day. Your presumption is indicative of the partisan (mindless) mindset ingrained in our political culture.

[Oubaas]

So based on your points 1, 2, and 3, you're looking for a defenseless place full of atheists where no one is ever punished for their crimes?

You don't actually need to move to another country if that's the case. There are plenty of places right here in the US that meet those requirements, especially on the west coast, but lots of other places as well.

The things to which you object exist in forms so spectacular in many other countries that you couldn't begin to imagine it.

The things that you seem to desire often do not even exist in other countries.

You seem to have developed your picture of this country and the rest of the world based on propaganda and movies. That's not the way that the world really is, regardless of what the propagandists and moviemakers would lead you to believe.

You can't save the world. If you manage to get through life relatively unscathed yourself, you'll have done well. Reading your complaints and your ideas for addressing them, you appear to be getting ready to jump out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Base your life decisions on logic and reason, not emotion. If you act on the basis of emotion, the probability is high that you'll regret it.

You're obviously unhappy, but I don't believe that it's actually due to the reasons that you've identified. People whose lives are, "quite fine" are not usually looking to move to another country to start over.

You stress far too much about things over which you do not have control, and over which you will never have any control.

Identify the real basis of your unhappiness. If you act now, you'll just end up still unhappy, while trying to learn a new language and adapt to new surroundings.

The grass is always greener over the septic tank. Your view of this country and the world is unrealistic. Do not act on it. I base this on a life full of having lived all over the world. If you think that things are bad here, be thankful that you've never lived in some of the places that I've lived.

Learn to be happy with whatever comes. Other people can't make you angry and upset. They don't possess that kind of power. You have to choose to be angry and upset. But you can also choose to not be angry and upset, and to be happy and to enjoy life right where you are. Fleeing from unhappiness is like trying to flee from your shadow.

[em2nought]

Jeez guys, afraid to let go of the Biden voters? LOL

Portugal has been hot with expats from California lately. Take a vacation to one of the places you're thinking about.

Oh, you should probably consider subscribing to this magazine too https://internationalliving-magazine...SAAEgJNgvD_BwE

[Dowly]

I'm sure us Nordics are happy to have you. Just be prepared for the winter darkness.


Have a look here:
https://www.infofinland.fi/en

[Oubaas]

Originally Posted by em2nought

Jeez guys, afraid to let go of the Biden voters? LOL

Well, no. We just want them to be well informed when they go.

(Note to Self: Avoid Portugal).

[Platapus]

And nothing says you have to pick only one country to live it. Travel and try out each one of the countries on your list. Live there and see if the reality meets your expectations. If not, move on and try another country.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Dowly

I'm sure us Nordics are happy to have you. Just be prepared for the winter darkness.


Have a look here:
https://www.infofinland.fi/en

Thank you Lol I am sure it will be a adjustment but will be fine. I may pester you with some questions from time to time lol

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Oubaas

So based on your points 1, 2, and 3, you're looking for a defenseless place full of atheists where no one is ever punished for their crimes?

You don't actually need to move to another country if that's the case. There are plenty of places right here in the US that meet those requirements, especially on the west coast, but lots of other places as well.

The things to which you object exist in forms so spectacular in many other countries that you couldn't begin to imagine it.

The things that you seem to desire often do not even exist in other countries.

You seem to have developed your picture of this country and the rest of the world based on propaganda and movies. That's not the way that the world really is, regardless of what the propagandists and moviemakers would lead you to believe.

You can't save the world. If you manage to get through life relatively unscathed yourself, you'll have done well. Reading your complaints and your ideas for addressing them, you appear to be getting ready to jump out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Base your life decisions on logic and reason, not emotion. If you act on the basis of emotion, the probability is high that you'll regret it.

You're obviously unhappy, but I don't believe that it's actually due to the reasons that you've identified. People whose lives are, "quite fine" are not usually looking to move to another country to start over.

You stress far too much about things over which you do not have control, and over which you will never have any control.

Identify the real basis of your unhappiness. If you act now, you'll just end up still unhappy, while trying to learn a new language and adapt to new surroundings.

The grass is always greener over the septic tank. Your view of this country and the world is unrealistic. Do not act on it. I base this on a life full of having lived all over the world. If you think that things are bad here, be thankful that you've never lived in some of the places that I've lived.

Learn to be happy with whatever comes. Other people can't make you angry and upset. They don't possess that kind of power. You have to choose to be angry and upset. But you can also choose to not be angry and upset, and to be happy and to enjoy life right where you are. Fleeing from unhappiness is like trying to flee from your shadow.

I am actually not unhappy personally(quite presumptuous of you), I have a great life, but I an unhappy with this country and do not see it changing anytime soon, it is descending into a worse state. These are systemic issues that predate me and that will likely outlast me or not change until I am quite elderly. I am relatively young and desire to live in a better nation, and there is much evidence to show some of those I am considering moving to have a much better way of life, are a bit more evolved. I've traveled to all states in the US and while some are better than others, still has the same systematic issues. I've traveled internationally a bit as well, but yet to live abroad.

Also, I am not being "emotional" (Could you be more condescending?) or believe things because of propaganda, but I have seen them first hand through my profession and personal experiences.


"Learn to be happy with whatever comes." That really made my eyes roll, that is the mindset of a "settler". Someone who settles for everything in life and pretends/convinces themselves are happy, so the live out their days existing..."Learning to be happy with whatever comes" . I hate to be presumptuous, but I know the type.



Anyways, thanks for the response.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Platapus

And nothing says you have to pick only one country to live it. Travel and try out each one of the countries on your list. Live there and see if the reality meets your expectations. If not, move on and try another country.

Indeed.

[mapuc]

I read what Bubblehead1980 wrote ^^

There were one sentence I noticed

"I have a great life, but I an unhappy with this country and do not see it changing anytime soon, it is descending into a worse state."

After having lived a few years in the new country Bubblehead1980 may realize that the people there are thinking the same- They are somehow unhappy with their country and have lost hope of any changes.

I'm not saying Bubblehead1980 shouldn't move-Only that each country has their own political or social problems.

Markus

[Oubaas]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

"Learn to be happy with whatever comes." That really made my eyes roll, that is the mindset of a "settler". Someone who settles for everything in life and pretends/convinces themselves are happy, so the live out their days existing..."Learning to be happy with whatever comes" . I hate to be presumptuous, but I know the type.



Anyways, thanks for the response.

Some of us see things differently and realize that there are greater issues in life than ourselves and our personal happiness.

If I'm a settler, I certainly chose a tough way to settle. I'm retired military, served in Special Operations, was forward deployed, deployed, and eventually ended up permanently and totally disabled in the line of duty. I'm a life member of the VFW and the DAV, and have a big padded envelope full of medals and gedunk in my sock drawer.

Why did I settle for that? So that people like you could live safely and securely while you complain, worry about yourselves, and disparage the country and your fellow Americans who don't see things the same as you see them.

Let me know when you find that perfect place. I've never found it. I've lived all over the world, and finally came home and settled down.

And by the way, no one needs to thank me for my service. It was my pleasure. I might have been condemned to an ordinary life if I hadn't chosen the path that I followed.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Oubaas

Some of us see things differently and realize that there are greater issues in life than ourselves and our personal happiness.

If I'm a settler, I certainly chose a tough way to settle. I'm retired military, served in Special Operations, was forward deployed, deployed, and eventually ended up permanently and totally disabled in the line of duty. I'm a life member of the VFW and the DAV, and have a big padded envelope full of medals and gedunk in my sock drawer.

Why did I settle for that? So that people like you could live safely and securely while you complain, worry about yourselves, and disparage the country and your fellow Americans who don't see things the same as you see them.

Let me know when you find that perfect place. I've never found it. I've lived all over the world, and finally came home and settled down.

And by the way, no one needs to thank me for my service. It was my pleasure. I might have been condemned to an ordinary life if I hadn't chosen the path that I followed.

Well you may be a settler . But nobody can ever accuse you of being a quitter, that’s for damn sure.

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Oubaas

Some of us see things differently and realize that there are greater issues in life than ourselves and our personal happiness.

If I'm a settler, I certainly chose a tough way to settle. I'm retired military, served in Special Operations, was forward deployed, deployed, and eventually ended up permanently and totally disabled in the line of duty. I'm a life member of the VFW and the DAV, and have a big padded envelope full of medals and gedunk in my sock drawer.

Why did I settle for that? So that people like you could live safely and securely while you complain, worry about yourselves, and disparage the country and your fellow Americans who don't see things the same as you see them.

Let me know when you find that perfect place. I've never found it. I've lived all over the world, and finally came home and settled down.

And by the way, no one needs to thank me for my service. It was my pleasure. I might have been condemned to an ordinary life if I hadn't chosen the path that I followed.

This is about the biggest reality check that I could possibly think of. This is a reminder to be thankful for all things, large and small. This is a big reminder of everything those in our armed services sacrificed and lived and died for.

You said not to thank you but I respectfully disagree.

Thank you for the reminders and reality checks but for all you did for the U.S and also, us.

[Sean C]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

"Learn to be happy with whatever comes." That really made my eyes roll, that is the mindset of a "settler". Someone who settles for everything in life and pretends/convinces themselves are happy, so the live out their days existing..."Learning to be happy with whatever comes" . I hate to be presumptuous, but I know the type.

Yes, better to just flee and settle somewhere else. I mean, trying to effect a positive change in one's environment is just so much work. Ugh.