Any US Expatriates here?

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Kapitan

Surprised a lot more Americans haven't chosen Canada

emigrating to Canada is not always easy, especially for older people. The last thing Canada wants is a bunch of old people who have not paid into their social systems moving there and taking advantage of it. Can't blame them

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by mapuc

You could also move to our little island here in Denmark.

Here we have the motto-What can be postpone to next week we postpone-With other words-We take it very easy...

It's also very calm here and the busses is free-no cost.

Markus

Actually, I've looked into Denmark, it is on the list along with Switzerland, and Finland.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Exactly, we may have problems, but overall, it is still a nice place to live and big enough that frankly most problems can be ignored

I have to disagree, especially for those of us under 40. We are a nation of corporate feudalism, intertwined with a emerging theocracy. Supreme Court which just took away the right to body autonomy from half of the population, said let each state decide if they are worthy of controlling their own body. Why? because it suited their religious views and they used their legal "thought" as a façade to justify their actions. Other rights are next...guaranteed. US has a broken election system and a myriad of other problems. I am in my late 30's and have decided I do not want to waste my life in this country. I am in a more fortunate position than most and would likely be fine here, but there is better out there and as such I refuse to be stuck on this sinking ship, that will likely sink during my lifetime. Future of the USA is not bright, especially for younger people.

[August]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I have to disagree, especially for those of us under 40. We are a nation of corporate feudalism, intertwined with a emerging theocracy. Supreme Court which just took away the right to body autonomy from half of the population, said let each state decide if they are worthy of controlling their own body. Why? because it suited their religious views and they used their legal "thought" as a façade to justify their actions. Other rights are next...guaranteed. US has a broken election system and a myriad of other problems. I am in my late 30's and have decided I do not want to waste my life in this country. I am in a more fortunate position than most and would likely be fine here, but there is better out there and as such I refuse to be stuck on this sinking ship, that will likely sink during my lifetime. Future of the USA is not bright, especially for younger people.

So where are you heading Bub? What nation do you see as a preferable alternative to this one?

[Sean C]

I'm sticking it out 'til the bitter end. I've been to several other countries both as a visitor and temporary resident. They were nice, and I enjoyed my time there. But there is no place I'd rather be than here. The U.S. isn't perfect - of course - but it is my home and I love it dearly. And as others have mentioned, every country has its own problems.

If I'm going down with this ship, I'll go down fighting.

Besides, this country has been through worse. Civil war, depression, world war, Woodrow Wilson ...

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Supreme Court which just took away the right to body autonomy from half of the population, said let each state decide if they are worthy of controlling their own body. Why? because it suited their religious views and they used their legal "thought" as a façade to justify their actions.

Wrong. They did it because of an oft forgotten passage in the Constitution known as the Tenth Amendment. The federal government's charter only provides a very limited number of powers and duties - and those don't include making decisions on abortions. Many federal laws are in direct violation of the Constitution. There is a reason this is called "The United States of America" and not "The Federal District of America".

(NB: I am pro-choice.)

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Sean C

Woodrow Wilson

Yeah, I curse that guy every April 15th.

Bubblehead wants to leave because he thinks I'm winning, and I want to leave because I think he's winning. LOL I was planning on it before just because you can get by cheaper overseas, but now it's getting even cheaper in comparison. My bank charged me $17 for a book of ten checks last week. They didn't bother to tell me it would only be ten checks or I'd have told them to pound sand.

[August]

A lot of people, mostly liberals, have publicly and self righteously declared that they were leaving the country for good if some pol they didn't like was elected or some law was passed they didn't like. There were many of them talking that crap before Donald Trump was elected. Same thing when George Bush took office. Same thing now that the SCOTUS has corrected some of the previous courts judicial overreaches as well as some by the executive branches.

But sadly, few if any of them actually backed it up with real action which makes them clownish hypocrites in my book. I say to anyone who wants to leave, don't be one of those sad fools. Stand by your principles! Just find a place that will take you and will meet your standards go there and apply for citizenship. I'm sure that they would take you being simpatico to their better way of life.

Just show some commitment and courage in your convictions and give up your US citizenship when you do. Not only would your former countrymen appreciate it, it might also help to put you in good stead with your adopted homeland.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by ET2SN

"I see... So, any hobbies?"

"Well, I enjoy building miniature nuclear submarines and playing Whack-A-Squirrel."

"Playing what??"

"Whack-A-Squirrel. I hit virtual squirrels with an imaginary wooden stick while I taunt a retiree from California."

"A virtual retiree from California, I take it?"

"Oh no, he's real, alright. He even owns a boat."


"I see.."

...who can out-Whack U; out-sail U; and out-hook U in the scrum! And is even contemplating a return to Brockville, Canada(near Toronto- a Kincaid stronghold since the 1700's) where my maternal grandparents emigrated from...but then I'd have to put up with inlaws and cold winters!

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

.And is even contemplating a return to Brockville, Canada(near Toronto- a Kincaid stronghold since the 1700's) where my maternal grandparents emigrated from...but then I'd have to put up with inlaws and cold winters!

Well, there are inlaws and then there are outlaws.

[ET2SN]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

...who can out-Whack U; out-sail U; and out-hook U in the scrum! And is even contemplating a return to Brockville, Canada(near Toronto- a Kincaid stronghold since the 1700's) where my maternal grandparents emigrated from...but then I'd have to put up with inlaws and cold winters!

It gets below 50 F. You'd never make it.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by August

So where are you heading Bub? What nation do you see as a preferable alternative to this one?

I am still researching to make my decision. Denmark, Finland, Switzerland, Germany have my interest. I have a friend loving it in Panama, although may bit a bit too hot for me down there.

[Rockstar]

I used live in Gatun you’d love Panama, it has a pretty diverse landscape to choose from. Cool windy beaches, steamy tropical rain forests and freezing cold waters flowing down from the high mountains in the interior of Panama. And it only has two seasons! There’s rainy season (lots of rain) and dry season (lots of wind). It’s beautiful.

Edit: I’m also pretty sure the U.S. dollar and the Balboa still have a 1:1 exchange rate too. That’s a big plus.

[August]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I am still researching to make my decision. Denmark, Finland, Switzerland, Germany have my interest. I have a friend loving it in Panama, although may bit a bit too hot for me down there.

Well good luck to you but I doubt you will find things much different in those countries. IMO you misjudge the state and direction of this nation but I think it will take actually living in a foreign land for a time to make you realize it.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by August

Well good luck to you but I doubt you will find things much different in those countries. IMO you misjudge the state and direction of this nation but I think it will take actually living in a foreign land for a time to make you realize it.

I've visited some of them, of course visiting is different than living, thus the research continues.


How have I misjudged the US ? I am always curious when I hear that, seems almost obtuse to the problems we have.


Only thing we actual lead the world in is:

1. People who believe in the imaginary, omnipotent man in the sky. Thus, we suffer all of the associated nonsense that comes with that.

2. Military spending

3. Number of people incarcerated. Oh yea, we STILL execute people.

We have two million plus people in prison, widespread poverty, crime, violence, lower life expectancy, 30 million plus people without health insurance, employees have few rights compared to other western nations, no guaranteed vacation, parental leave etc (well not adequate), a housing crisis. because greedy corporations are buying up "starter" homes. Add in the growing authoritarianism, stripping of rights thanks religious zealots controlling highest court in the land. Nothing will change for better any time soon.

[August]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I've visited some of them, of course visiting is different than living, thus the research continues.


How have I misjudged the US ? I am always curious when I hear that, seems almost obtuse to the problems we have.


Only thing we actual lead the world in is:

1. People who believe in the imaginary, omnipotent man in the sky. Thus, we suffer all of the associated nonsense that comes with that.

2. Military spending

3. Number of people incarcerated. Oh yea, we STILL execute people.

We have two million plus people in prison, widespread poverty, crime, violence, lower life expectancy, 30 million plus people without health insurance, employees have few rights compared to other western nations, no guaranteed vacation, parental leave etc (well not adequate), a housing crisis. because greedy corporations are buying up "starter" homes. Add in the growing authoritarianism, stripping of rights thanks religious zealots controlling highest court in the land. Nothing will change for better any time soon.

Well you exaggerate our problems greatly and you will find that similar issues also exist in each of those nations you mentioned, but nobody is going to convince you of that until you see it for yourself. So go find out.