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07-04-22, 06:32 PM | #3631 | |
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regardless of those facts I suppose I’d still get called a denier and fenced in There were many prominent and qualified people who questioned the last vaccine too. And instead of discussion, instead of people being able to rely on their own doctors advice. They got the party line and very unscientific medical advice of fanboy bandwagon opinions ignored and called deniers and threatened with denial of medical care if they didn’t follow the party line to get juiced up with the party approved experimental drugs. Whether you got the vaccine or not that decision only affected you and no one else.
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07-05-22, 01:30 AM | #3632 | |
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And this has nothing to do with any "party" line, but with reason. If vaccinated you will infect less others or even none, which is what i am talking about. The less carriers there are, the less infections will take place, meaning the virus is not able to increase its numbers, lowering the overall viral pressure on the population. A lot of diseases and viruses have been dealt with in a way that they mean no harm to humans anymore, often by mass vaccinations. Viruses do not "die out" entirely, but with only few hosts to multiply (=low viral pressure) the risk of infection is almost nil. If you still catch the virus after a vaccination, symptoms will be less grave or even non-existent, with the usual few exceptions. Side effects (that have never been swept under the carpet) usually indicate that the vaccine works. Low probability of long-term side effects after coronavirus vaccination No vaccine ever had or has has a 100 percent probability or guarantee of helping everyone of course. If your immunosystem has already problems from other causes, like Guillain-Barrée or MS or else it will be wise to ask a doctor first. OT re bubonic plague Regarding fleas and rats and humans they are probably related close enough "In the U.S., there is currently no bubonic plague vaccine. In other locations, a vaccine is available [only] to people who have a high exposure to the plague because of their jobs." Probably not worth the production when there is no plague and it can be cured with antibiotics alone. If diagnosed early enough. Do you oppose taking antibiotics, too, and why?
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07-05-22, 08:03 AM | #3633 | |
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Except that those experimental covid vaccines don't really help much at all from what I can see. They don't stop transmission of the disease, they don't prevent sickness or death and in spite of active political suppression there is a growing body of medical evidence that their side effects have hurt or killed those they were supposedly meant to save. On another note why do Germans always advocate rounding up innocent people and putting them into cages? Are Concentration Camps something that is built into your national psyche?
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07-05-22, 09:20 AM | #3634 | |||
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I give a rat's anus for political opinions when it comes to science. So you speak of evidence where? Plausible and fact-checked, please, and with a statistical impact of significance. Quote:
Godwin's law and the nazis again, sorry no. Ever heard of a word named quarantine?
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07-05-22, 09:53 AM | #3635 | |
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It wasn't a mere quarantine you were advocating when you said "fence them in and wait" and I don't want to hear that crap about godwins law. You toss the nazi label around quite freely and your recommended final solution to those who reject your drugs is so much like the methods of your forefathers as to justify the comparison. "Spritze Macht Frei" should be your logo.
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07-05-22, 10:07 AM | #3636 |
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The question that immediately arises is what else would you allow your government to "quarantine" your fellow citizens for? And who would get to decide who and why? One can easily see how that kind of power could be abused in the name of 'public safety'. Can you or anyone else guarantee that it won't happen?
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07-05-22, 03:40 PM | #3637 | |||
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Really. Are you telling me you still believe in the party line the vaccine will prevent you from getting infected? Vaccinated or not you can still get infected and still pass on the virus, ANY virus, to another human being. We have also found that healthy humans especially the young faired well against the COVID virus and acquired a natural immunity. But lock them up, fire them, deny them health care too until they get vaccinated was a based solely on a headline, a political narrative.
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When I got my first COVOD vaccine I had a severe reaction. The mandate Nazis told me it’s because I must have been infected before. Still I refused the second shot because it affected the entire left side of my body and heart health. Come to find out later it was most likely administered incorrectly and injected into my blood stream. Damn good thing I didn’t listen to the mandate Nazis. Quote:
What bothers me is with all the information available from real honest goodness scientists, virologist and medical professionals. The only thing the usual suspects could think to do was to start rounding people up in camps, and punish them by denying them health care, and their livelihood if they don’t follow the fear. That’s not reason.
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07-05-22, 10:18 PM | #3638 |
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Democrats Honestly you couldn’t make this up if you tried
https://twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/stat...96491383181318 George Takei @GeorgeTakei Crazy thought, but those 20 million AR-15s now in this country could sure arm a lot of Ukrainians. 10:17 PM · Jun 6, 2022·Twitter for iPhone Jun 6 Replying to @GeorgeTakei Nice to finally see you understand purpose of 2nd amendment defend from foreign invaders.
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07-05-22, 11:20 PM | #3639 | |
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07-06-22, 12:24 AM | #3640 |
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...or domestic enemies.
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07-06-22, 12:34 AM | #3641 |
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Riiiight that does seem to be the current narrative these days doesn’t it? Let’s create a national police force because, you know, boogie man.
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You still can get infected but most will either show no symptoms or much less than the non-vaccinated. Also the interval of being able to infect others is reduced. Quote:
WTF has this to do with "politics". You can drink your hydroxychloroquine or whateverthisis and it will only affect you alright. I am not aware that there is a law forcing you to get vaccinated? Quote:
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07-06-22, 02:03 AM | #3643 | |
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Is there anyone who has seriously proposed to incarcerate infected people? What about isolation of infectious cases in a clinic, isn't that reasonable?
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07-06-22, 02:24 AM | #3644 |
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The fellows wanting to create that post Jan 6th force are the domestic enemies I'm talking about.
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07-06-22, 07:42 AM | #3645 | |
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