US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Jeff-Groves]

"who said the story was relayed to her by another White House official"

In a Court of law? Isin't that hearsay and inadmissable?

Judge Judy won't listen to testemony like that!

[mapuc]

Here is what the Danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet wrote:

Former US President Donald Trump became enraged and tried to grab the wheel of the White House limousine he was sitting in when he was told he would not be driven up to Congress when it was stormed on 6 January 2021.

So says a member of the ex-president's then-staff during a hearing on the deadly stampede.

- I'm the real president. Drive me up to the convention building now, Trump is reported to have said, according to Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony.

The 25-year-old Hutchinson was an aide to Trump's former chief of staff Mark Meadows.

She told the hearing about meetings with Mark Meadows in the days leading up to January 6 - including a specific meeting with Trump's lawyer, Rudy Giuliani on January 2.

- A lot is really happening, Cass, but maybe it's going to get pretty bad on January 6, Meadows told me, the testimony from Hutchinson states.

- That night was the first time that I remember being scared and nervous about what was going to happen on January 6, she adds.

Hutchinson also says that Trump demanded to be taken to Congress after an event on January 6. She says the president himself tried to grab the wheel of the limo when he was told he would not be driven up there.

According to the former Meadows aide, Trump was also told that people gathering at a shopping mall early on January 6 were carrying guns, but the president told them to let them in anyway so they could march up to Congress.

- They haven't come to hurt me, Trump is reported to have said of the armed rebels.

- I don't give a damn if they have guns, Trump said, according to Cassidy Hutchinson.

The president said security officials could take the magazines out of the activists' weapons.

- Let my people in. They can march to Congress from here, the president said, according to Hutchinson.

It's unclear whether Hutchinson can add new evidence to the case. However, it was expected in advance that her testimony would shed new light on how the situation was around Trump both before and after the storm at Congress.

The hearings will include a focus on how the then-president, late in his term, pressured top Justice Department officials on a daily basis to help him illegally maintain power.

According to then-White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, Trump was so angered to hear his attorney general tell the AP news agency that there was no evidence of voter fraud that he threw his lunch plate against the wall, shattering the china and sending the ketchup running down the wall.

This also came out during the hearing.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

AND it was this I based my comment on -Not the English article I posted.
I didn't read the English article accurate, ´cause I thought it would say the same.

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

"who said the story was relayed to her by another White House official"

In a Court of law? Isin't that hearsay and inadmissable?

Judge Judy won't listen to testemony like that!

It's not a trial.

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

It's not a trial.

Ah. I forgot.
It's a lynching.

[August]

Secret Service agents willing to testify that Trump didn't lunge at steering wheel during Capitol riot: source

Two Secret Service agents are prepared to testify before Congress that then-President Trump did not lunge at a steering wheel or assault them in an attempt to go to the Capitol during the Jan. 6 riot, a source close to the Secret Service tells Fox News.

and

(Head of the presidential security detail Agent Bob) Engel and the limousine driver, an unnamed Secret Service agent, are prepared to testify before the Jan. 6 committee that the president didn't lunge at the steering wheel. The Jan. 6 committee and the Secret Service are in discussions about whether one or both men will appear on camera.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sec...l-capitol-riot


Does this make Hutchinson a perjurer? I think it does.

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by August

Does this make Hutchinson a perjurer? I think it does.

But it's not a trial so I guess it's left to what they decide the truth to be.

Kind of like the end of the Templers eh?

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by August

Does this make Hutchinson a perjurer? I think it does.

I read a CNN article that said she actually demonstrated how Trump grabbed the wheel. It makes her the leading lady in Blue Anon kubuki show.


“ According to Hutchinson”.

Adam Schiff also says their is overwhelming evidence. Still waiting for the evidence from the last Blue Anon kubuki show I suppose the Committee is going after all the low hanging fruit first like they did last time. “any day now”.

[August]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

But it's not a trial so I guess it's left to what they decide the truth to be.

Yeah just ask the 50 or so Jan 6th protesters who have been languishing in jail in solitary confinement without trial let alone a conviction for a year and a half now.


This in a nation that claims to guarantee the right of it's citizens to a fair and speedy trial.

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by August

This in a nation that claims to guarantee the right of it's citizens to a fair and speedy trial.

Where do you think PayPal got it's terms of usage from?

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by August

Secret Service agents willing to testify that Trump didn't lunge at steering wheel during Capitol riot: source





and





https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sec...l-capitol-riot


Does this make Hutchinson a perjurer? I think it does.

She was relating what she was told about the steering wheel limo, not what she witnessed, so no.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

She was relating what she was told about the steering wheel limo, not what she witnessed, so no.

The person she said told her that is Agent Engel and he is denying it happened so maybe yes.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

"who said the story was relayed to her by another White House official"

In a Court of law? Isin't that hearsay and inadmissable?

Judge Judy won't listen to testemony like that!

This isn't about the law, this is about public opinion & the 2024 Presidential election.

[Rockstar]

BOONDOGGLE

[August]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Ever look at presidential limo? There is absolutely no way in hell anyone, even the president can make contact with the driver compartment let alone grab the wheel.

A salient point being happily ignored. QFT.


Besides, it's not like it's a long journey. Trump could have just gotten out of the Limo and he would not have had far to walk.

[mapuc]

I'm still thinking on what Rockstar said to that Trump in no way could reach the steering wheel.

After this I made some search to see how this limo. looks like inside and I must say there's a space between the front-Where the driver sits and some other guy sit on the passanger seat.

I doubt that they would allow the President to sit there or in the space between the driver and the room where the President sit with his fellow passangers

Markus