Grey wolves and NYGM

bboyer66 · 07-17-06, 01:34 PM

I removed NYGM and installed grey wolves, does grey wolves include NYGM? or do I have to install that as well? Also is there no pre-set button to traverse the Kiel Canal like in NYGM?
Kind of confused about the relation these mods have with each other.

joea · 07-17-06, 02:08 PM

No relation, different teams and all. I believe they just took a few mods like harbour traffic they individually incorporated (I think) but in different ways, and the Kiel mod (but the button only in GW).

mr chris · 07-17-06, 02:12 PM

GW does not inclued NYGM. GW is also not compatable with NYGM. its just a straight choice between the two. You could if you wanted to make two installs of the game one with NYGM and the other with GW. As of the preset button to transit the kiel canal in NYGM you are best off asking in the NYGM thread at the top of the mod forum page.
Hope that helps happy hunting.

mr chris · 07-17-06, 02:14 PM

Joea what is the trainsit button for the kiel canal in GW?

bigboywooly · 07-17-06, 02:57 PM

There is no transit button in GW
Its on the wish list for the next release tho

joea · 07-17-06, 03:02 PM

Oops my mistake.

bboyer66 · 07-17-06, 04:14 PM

but am I correct in that GW uses NYGMs damage model?

bboyer66 · 07-17-06, 04:15 PM

Oh ya, and if not, are they similar?

bigboywooly · 07-17-06, 04:43 PM

GW uses the NYGM 1.03 damage model ( or something like that )
Its not the same damage model as in NYGM 2 IIRC

Its better than stock anyway

07-17-06, 04:43 PM

GW uses an earlier NYGM damage model, 1.3 I believe. The new 2.0 NYGM has an updated damage model. The next GW will use something totally new and different. It is possible to use the newer damage model with GW by importing the Sea and Roster folders, plus certain files from other folders (I don't know for certain what all is involved, so someone from NYGM would have to tell you the rest).

Ducimus · 07-17-06, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

It is possible to use the newer damage model with GW by importing the Sea and Roster folders, plus certain files from other folders (I don't know for certain what all is involved

Its possible, but i woudlnt recommend it unless you know what your doing. The heckler here is the zones.cfg. This file dictates ship , airplane, and uboat compartments and damage and probably a few other things im unaware of. Naturally this file has far reaching effects. If a ship or sub's zones were modded to a different setting, then the zones.cfg file will not work correctly. At which point your talking about cutting/pasting/replacing very specific portions of the zones.cfg file from one mod into the other to make everything work together the way it should.

NeonSamurai · 07-17-06, 06:51 PM

Yep merging that together would be a pain and you would need to know (or learn as you go) how to mod SH3's damage model to pull it off. Definatly not a novice modder's project.

Also by moving entire folders you could gain many undesirable changes if there are large differences between the 2 mods. Which meens knowing which files do what, and which you want to copy and which you dont, and some of them may need editing too.

bboyer66 · 07-17-06, 07:11 PM

Thanks for the quick responses, keep up the great work

07-17-06, 01:34 PM	#1
bboyer66 Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 14 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Grey wolves and NYGM I removed NYGM and installed grey wolves, does grey wolves include NYGM? or do I have to install that as well? Also is there no pre-set button to traverse the Kiel Canal like in NYGM? Kind of confused about the relation these mods have with each other.

07-17-06, 02:57 PM	#5
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	There is no transit button in GW Its on the wish list for the next release tho __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

07-17-06, 04:43 PM	#9
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	GW uses the NYGM 1.03 damage model ( or something like that ) Its not the same damage model as in NYGM 2 IIRC Its better than stock anyway __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

07-17-06, 06:51 PM	#12
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Yep merging that together would be a pain and you would need to know (or learn as you go) how to mod SH3's damage model to pull it off. Definatly not a novice modder's project. Also by moving entire folders you could gain many undesirable changes if there are large differences between the 2 mods. Which meens knowing which files do what, and which you want to copy and which you dont, and some of them may need editing too. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

07-17-06, 02:08 PM	#2
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	No relation, different teams and all. I believe they just took a few mods like harbour traffic they individually incorporated (I think) but in different ways, and the Kiel mod (but the button only in GW).

07-17-06, 02:12 PM	#3
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	GW does not inclued NYGM. GW is also not compatable with NYGM. its just a straight choice between the two. You could if you wanted to make two installs of the game one with NYGM and the other with GW. As of the preset button to transit the kiel canal in NYGM you are best off asking in the NYGM thread at the top of the mod forum page. Hope that helps happy hunting.

07-17-06, 02:14 PM	#4
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	Joea what is the trainsit button for the kiel canal in GW?

07-17-06, 03:02 PM	#6
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Oops my mistake.

07-17-06, 04:14 PM	#7
bboyer66 Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 14 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	but am I correct in that GW uses NYGMs damage model?

07-17-06, 04:15 PM	#8
bboyer66 Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 14 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Oh ya, and if not, are they similar?

07-17-06, 04:43 PM	#10
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	GW uses an earlier NYGM damage model, 1.3 I believe. The new 2.0 NYGM has an updated damage model. The next GW will use something totally new and different. It is possible to use the newer damage model with GW by importing the Sea and Roster folders, plus certain files from other folders (I don't know for certain what all is involved, so someone from NYGM would have to tell you the rest).

07-17-06, 07:11 PM	#13
bboyer66 Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 14 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the quick responses, keep up the great work