[REL] Dark Waters

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

No chronometer.....


I hit the button the UI and the hot key, nothing pops up..

you need to apply the U_Jagd mod for a chronometer and it is only that.
the clock is in a box near the bottom of the Nav Map.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

you need to apply the U_Jagd mod for a chronometer and it is only that.
the clock is in a box near the bottom of the Nav Map.

Ah I misread things, I thought it was optional.


yea I saw the clock is in bottom left, thought something was wrong lol

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

yea I saw the clock is in bottom left, thought something was wrong lol

earlier releases of DW had no chronometer or clock.
you know what i really wish that SH4 had: date/time stamp on their messages, both in the order box on the HUD and the radio messages. how can anyone design a naval simulation and not date/time stamp everything? that is the first thing we learned in the navy.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

earlier releases of DW had no chronometer or clock.
you know what i really wish that SH4 had: date/time stamp on their messages, both in the order box on the HUD and the radio messages. how can anyone design a naval simulation and not date/time stamp everything? that is the first thing we learned in the navy.

Hmm , Yea so the chronometer is still not showing up, with even the mod activated.

I love the flak guns in this mod. Finally get a decent representation of the "puffs" of flak.


I agree, lack of time stamps, another UBI oversight. The laziness in development of it still really. Here had a major dev company with people paid , the source, code, resources etc and failed to deliver in so many ways but I digress.

Any ideas on the chron issue? I have it installed as instruct. Set on resolution, it just simply does not show when hit the hot key or click on the UI. pretty important for manual targeting.

[Bubblehead1980]

Did a little test with darker nights mod on Dark Waters. Works fine thus far. Of course ultimate test will be when find a convoy to test on but dark nights looks great with mod. Will be a matter of testing and adjusting visual sensors only I believe.


I may do some campaign traffic work, not sure yet. Definitely want to add convoys in 1940, quite curious they seem to be missing. From my reading. Convoys started pretty much immediately, were not slow to start as Japan was for example.

Couple issues...when hit the Y key to cycle tubes, it does this but always takes to the damage control screen.



F9 sends to the radio room. Wouldnt make more sense to put in conning tower where attack scope and in case of the Type 9 I was just in, the obs scope is as well. Im not sure how to do this. Remapping keys and I did ntot get along well in TMO lol

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Did a little test with darker nights mod on Dark Waters. Works fine thus far. Of course ultimate test will be when find a convoy to test on but dark nights looks great with mod. Will be a matter of testing and adjusting visual sensors only I believe.


I may do some campaign traffic work, not sure yet. Definitely want to add convoys in 1940, quite curious they seem to be missing. From my reading. Convoys started pretty much immediately, were not slow to start as Japan was for example.

Couple issues...when hit the Y key to cycle tubes, it does this but always takes to the damage control screen.



F9 sends to the radio room. Wouldn't make more sense to put in conning tower where attack scope and in case of the Type 9 I was just in, the obs scope is as well. Im not sure how to do this. Remapping keys and I did not get along well in TMO lol

You, would think so... but... remember, that for the Uboat... The radio room area, was also home to the Uboats... 'ears', as well... aka the sonar equipment.

Which, unlike their counterpart in the U. S. fleetboat service... had that, located in the conning tower on the newer subs. The S class, being the exception which had theirs in the control room... since the conning tower was little more than a means to get to the bridge.

The radio/sonar section, was also where... the Kaleun, went to gather his thoughts when he had some time for... privacy, as well.. though in a more... limited fashion.

Of course, looking at the config of the uboat... it stands to reason, as to the arrangement of it... the radio/sonar set up... was well away from the noisy engine section... which, was important... as noise from the engines... e motors via the props... would interfere with sound pick up. Hence... that narrow 20 degree dead zone.. (10 to each side of 180) as to the rest... well, that depended greatly on the type equipment used... believe there was 1 set up that covered 140-150 degrees leaving a dead zone both fore & aft... & then there was the 1 that allowed for 360 degree sound pick up, with that same read 20 degree dead zone, if the e motors were in use. The down side with that last unit, was... it could easily (more easily than the internal 140-150 side scan unit... ) NOT to say that, it couldn't get damaged... just that it took a bit more to do so.


Yet, while away from the engine compartment, it was still in close proximity to... the control room... or command section.







M. M.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

You, would think so... but... remember, that for the Uboat... The radio room area, was also home to the Uboats... 'ears', as well... aka the sonar equipment.

Which, unlike their counterpart in the U. S. fleetboat service... had that, located in the conning tower on the newer subs. The S class, being the exception which had theirs in the control room... since the conning tower was little more than a means to get to the bridge.

The radio/sonar section, was also where... the Kaleun, went to gather his thoughts when he had some time for... privacy, as well.. though in a more... limited fashion.

Of course, looking at the config of the uboat... it stands to reason, as to the arrangement of it... the radio/sonar set up... was well away from the noisy engine section... which, was important... as noise from the engines... e motors via the props... would interfere with sound pick up. Hence... that narrow 20 degree dead zone.. (10 to each side of 180) as to the rest... well, that depended greatly on the type equipment used... believe there was 1 set up that covered 140-150 degrees leaving a dead zone both fore & aft... & then there was the 1 that allowed for 360 degree sound pick up, with that same read 20 degree dead zone, if the e motors were in use. The down side with that last unit, was... it could easily (more easily than the internal 140-150 side scan unit... ) NOT to say that, it couldn't get damaged... just that it took a bit more to do so.


Yet, while away from the engine compartment, it was still in close proximity to... the control room... or command section.







M. M.

True. Just thinking for ease of movement in the sim.

Im out on patrol with auto target (bleh) for now just to test things out. First assignment was Grid AE 76 off Iceland. Finished it up now in AL looking for convoy. July 1941. Curiously enter 15 days at sea and fairly close, only saw one aircraft, a sunderland which did not and was unarmed apparently.Gotta get the chronometer fixed issue somehow when get back to port for when start a real campaign can do manual targeting.

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

. Definitely want to add convoys in 1940, quite curious they seem to be missing. From my reading. Convoys started pretty much immediately, were not slow to start as Japan was for example.

I just checked, and the Lant_Convoys_41 layer is activated from the beginning of the war in 1939 up to 1942 in the campaign.cfg (Section 46). It spawns convoys for 1939 and 1940.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by JapLance

I just checked, and the Lant_Convoys_41 layer is activated from the beginning of the war in 1939 up to 1942 in the campaign.cfg (Section 46). It spawns convoys for 1939 and 1940.

Really? Guess I missed that. Thanks



Im 30 days in at sea in Grid AL 5, prime area and no contacts lol. One Sunderland, en route to area but didnt see me somehow.


July 30 1941/

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Did a little test with darker nights mod on Dark Waters. Works fine thus far. Of course ultimate test will be when find a convoy to test on but dark nights looks great with mod. Will be a matter of testing and adjusting visual sensors only I believe.


I may do some campaign traffic work, not sure yet. Definitely want to add convoys in 1940, quite curious they seem to be missing. From my reading. Convoys started pretty much immediately, were not slow to start as Japan was for example.

Couple issues...when hit the Y key to cycle tubes, it does this but always takes to the damage control screen.



F9 sends to the radio room. Wouldnt make more sense to put in conning tower where attack scope and in case of the Type 9 I was just in, the obs scope is as well. Im not sure how to do this. Remapping keys and I did ntot get along well in TMO lol

if you want remapped keys, i can send you the keyboard that i use no matter which mod-set i am playing.
i do not have a graphic of the keyboard and if i forget which key is which, i use jimimadrid's keymapper to answer the question.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

if you want remapped keys, i can send you the keyboard that i use no matter which mod-set i am playing.
i do not have a graphic of the keyboard and if i forget which key is which, i use jimimadrid's keymapper to answer the question.

Sure, if you don't mind

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Hmm , Yea so the chronometer is still not showing up, with even the mod activated.

I love the flak guns in this mod. Finally get a decent representation of the "puffs" of flak.


I agree, lack of time stamps, another UBI oversight. The laziness in development of it still really. Here had a major dev company with people paid , the source, code, resources etc and failed to deliver in so many ways but I digress.

Any ideas on the chron issue? I have it installed as instruct. Set on resolution, it just simply does not show when hit the hot key or click on the UI. pretty important for manual targeting.

just re-checked the DW.zip and there are two U-Jagd mods.
you want to use OM_U-Jagd.

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\Ubisoft\Dark Waters\MODS]

100 OM_DarkWaters_V6
110 OM_Harder_Escort_L2
120 OM_Strategic_Map_Symbols
130 OM_UMark
140 OM_Warm_Clothes
150 OM_U-Jagd
160 OM_Med_Env
180 Voice Mod
900 DarkWaters V6_Errors-fix
999 DW Updates
jimimadrid Torpedos

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

just re-checked the DW.zip and there are two U-Jagd mods.
you want to use OM_U-Jagd.

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\Ubisoft\Dark Waters\MODS]

100 OM_DarkWaters_V6
110 OM_Harder_Escort_L2
120 OM_Strategic_Map_Symbols
130 OM_UMark
140 OM_Warm_Clothes
150 OM_U-Jagd
160 OM_Med_Env
180 Voice Mod
900 DarkWaters V6_Errors-fix
999 DW Updates
jimimadrid Torpedos

That is the one I am using...no chronometer.