US Politics Thread 2021-24 - Page 220

Onkel Neal · 03-25-22, 08:56 AM

Good grief, if this was Trump the media would say he was "lying"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2043572.html

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Journalist Christina Ruffini had asked how more sanctions would help in Ukraine when “deterrance didn’t work”.

“Let’s get something straight, you’d remember if you’ve covered me from the beginning, I did not say that, in fact, the sanctions would deter him. Sanctions never deter,” Mr Biden said. “You keep talking about that. Sanctions never deter.”

Mr Biden did, in fact, believe that “sanctions are intended to deter”, according to national security adviser Jake Sullivan, speaking on 11 February. “The President believes that sanctions are intended to deter. And in order for them to work — to deter, they have to be set up in a way where if Putin moves, then the costs are imposed,” Mr Sullivan said.

So, old Joe can't get it straight, huh?

I cannot understand some of his language, what does he mean, "the mainess of sanctions"?

Man, having a doddering, corrupt old hack as president is almost as bad as a narcissistic, babbling huckster. This country has problems.

Buddahaid · 03-25-22, 09:06 AM

We could get a doddering, corrupt, narcissistic, old hack of a babbling huckster as president....

u crank · 03-25-22, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

We could get a doddering, corrupt, narcissistic, old hack of a babbling huckster as president....

I don't see that the problem is the candidates who get elected President as bad as they might be. The problem is with the two political parties whose mechanisms can't seem to prevent these people from getting nominated. They're has to be younger, more qualified and more moderate people out there in both camps. Yet, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden?

Dowly · 03-25-22, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Which is a bit strange, i remember an audio tape back then being published which was "a bit" different, but seems it has meanwhile been deleted. Maybe for the better.

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

You know, I thought I remembered more incriminating details on audio too, thank you for saying that. Not sure where I heard it but yeah, I thought there was more Trump pressuring than the transcript there suggests.

I'm fairly sure there wasn't any audio of Trump/Zelensky call at any point. I think someone made a video reading the transcript, maybe that was posted here?

Rockstar · 03-25-22, 12:31 PM

Remember back in the day when Hunter Biden’s laptop was a distraction, misinformation, Trump lies, MAGA conspiracies etc, etc? Seems it’s making a comeback and those media outlets which proclaimed the above are now saying it needs to be looked into.

I also read it might be highlighted in the next presidential election and investigated by Republicans.

It’s been one dog and pony show boondoggle after another since Clinton. Let the games begin.

Dowly · 03-25-22, 12:38 PM

Nothing's come out of it in 17 months. I wouldn't hold my breath.

Rockstar · 03-25-22, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Nothing's come out of it in 17 months. I wouldn't hold my breath.

It’s just beginning, give it time.

les green01 · 03-25-22, 10:07 PM

don't forget Hunter lied on a background check then had his girlfriend get rid of the handgun which she threw in the trash at a gas station across the street from a school

Reece · 03-26-22, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

We could get a doddering, corrupt, narcissistic, old hack of a babbling huckster as president....

Hey, maybe Putin would be interested!!

Skybird · 03-26-22, 08:07 AM

Trump and Russia.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42493918

It would be high time that many Americnas giv eup certain illsusions they grew foind of, but I think more relasitoc is the assessment that these will not giv eup their recent life lies and instead, hand in hand with the extremiosts fot the opposing party, will do their best to deepn the polarization, helped by unscrupolous egocentric powermongers and career politicians.

The seed that got sown by Trump, promises to produce ever more excellent harvests.

u crank · 03-26-22, 09:29 AM

That is a July 2019 article Skybird. A lot of pertinent facts have come to be known since then. Like the connection between Hillary Clinton, the DNC, Christopher Steele, Fusion GPS, the media and Russia. And that is what Special Counsel John Durham is looking into. More to come.

Skybird · 03-26-22, 09:38 AM

Yes, its from 2019, thats why I posted it and thats why the BBC recently repeated it. Because it leaves plenty of wondering why it still is ignored and false statements about some of what it touches upon is still being spread.

The polarization has not deepened for no reason.

u crank · 03-26-22, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Yes, its from 2019, thats why I posted it and thats why the BBC recently repeated it. Because it leaves plenty of wondering why it still is ignored and false statements about some of what it touches upon is still being spread.

So why post an article that is inaccurate? So much more has come to be known. For example, we now know that the 'Russia collusion' scam was set in motion by Clinton to deflect from her email scandal. She was aided in this game by the Obama administration and people like James Comey. That is the real story but you won't find it on the BBC.

Catfish · 03-26-22, 04:07 PM

Skybird · 03-26-22, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

So why post an article that is inaccurate? So much more has come to be known. For example, we now know that the 'Russia collusion' scam was set in motion by Clinton to deflect from her email scandal. She was aided in this game by the Obama administration and people like James Comey. That is the real story but you won't find it on the BBC.

Some "realities" you only find inside people's heads. The BBC finds it difficult to dig them out from there.

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Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,327 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	We could get a doddering, corrupt, narcissistic, old hack of a babbling huckster as president.... __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

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les green01 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Freeman Missouri Posts: 1,784 Downloads: 1405 Uploads: 0	don't forget Hunter lied on a background check then had his girlfriend get rid of the handgun which she threw in the trash at a gas station across the street from a school __________________ I'll tell you what bravery really is. Bravery is just determination to do a job that you know has to be done. Audie Murphy

03-26-22, 08:07 AM	#3295
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,655 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Trump and Russia. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42493918 It would be high time that many Americnas giv eup certain illsusions they grew foind of, but I think more relasitoc is the assessment that these will not giv eup their recent life lies and instead, hand in hand with the extremiosts fot the opposing party, will do their best to deepn the polarization, helped by unscrupolous egocentric powermongers and career politicians. The seed that got sown by Trump, promises to produce ever more excellent harvests. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-26-22, 09:29 AM	#3296
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,746 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	That is a July 2019 article Skybird. A lot of pertinent facts have come to be known since then. Like the connection between Hillary Clinton, the DNC, Christopher Steele, Fusion GPS, the media and Russia. And that is what Special Counsel John Durham is looking into. More to come. __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

03-26-22, 09:38 AM	#3297
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,655 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Yes, its from 2019, thats why I posted it and thats why the BBC recently repeated it. Because it leaves plenty of wondering why it still is ignored and false statements about some of what it touches upon is still being spread. The polarization has not deepened for no reason. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-25-22, 12:31 PM	#3290
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Remember back in the day when Hunter Biden’s laptop was a distraction, misinformation, Trump lies, MAGA conspiracies etc, etc? Seems it’s making a comeback and those media outlets which proclaimed the above are now saying it needs to be looked into. I also read it might be highlighted in the next presidential election and investigated by Republicans. It’s been one dog and pony show boondoggle after another since Clinton. Let the games begin.

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Nothing's come out of it in 17 months. I wouldn't hold my breath.

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