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Old 03-11-22, 09:27 PM   #1
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Ouch. That hurts.

Lol, look at it this way. If NHL hockey or NFL football were ever played without pads and helmets there would be far more carnage and death than the most intense rugby game ever played!


Our games are so tough you could die if you play them without armoring up.
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Old 03-11-22, 10:32 PM   #2
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Lol, look at it this way. If NHL hockey or NFL football were ever played without pads and helmets there would be far more carnage and death than the most intense rugby game ever played!


Our games are so tough you could die if you play them without armoring up.
All jokes aside, I think the game has become a bit more brutal and dangerous since I played. A 17 year old kid in Germany was killed after being checked. These kids today are bigger, faster and more prone to not be disciplined in how they play. The games are so much faster too. This is after all, just a game. So, kids do die, even with protective gear.

I think we need to slow things down a bit. I played hard and could be nasty if the situation called for it but I prided myself on never taking a cheap shot-ever. That's not to say I didn't scrap or mix it up. Many of the kids I played with were the same way.

I wanted to play like Mark Messier, Paul Coffey, Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux and many others I saw in televised reruns. It never happened and I didn't have their considerable talent but It made me want to play a clean game. I don't regret it.


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Its the only game I know where you want to be drunk before you walk on the field.
I never thought about it but that may have helped. Shades of the movie Slapshot.

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Old 03-11-22, 11:13 PM   #3
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Immediately after the Super Bowl, I started missing football. That was the BEST playoff series ever!

Rugby would be something I'd be interested in learning more about tbh. I would be totally drooling over baseball right now but they pushed back opening day a week and that was annoying. I live only an hour from Chicago so I'm pretty hyped up for a Sox game this summer!
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If I get to do the "All Blacks" haka then heck yeah!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiKFYTFJ_kw"] [/URL]

I wanna see the Steelers do this!
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Old 03-12-22, 03:10 AM   #5
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Rugby would be something I'd be interested in learning more about tbh.
Its pretty easy to try out.
You (or your parents) need to have a good medical plan in place.
After that, all you need is a good pair of cleats and your tallest pair of black socks, the most minimal pair of shorts in your drawer, and a really thick Rugby shirt (the thickness minimizes the blood stains and keeps the mud out of your open wounds).
When they ask if you have a cup, say "No, why would I have a cup?" and you'll be welcomed to the team.

Always remember the first rule of Rugby- DON'T GET CAUGHT. The rule book is fairly flexible when it comes to moves that would get you suspended in other sports.
If this is all starting to sound like a gang fight, believe me, gang fights have more rules.

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Its pretty easy to try out.

Always remember the first rule of Rugby- DON'T GET CAUGHT. The rule book is fairly flexible when it comes to moves that would get you suspended in other sports.
If this is all starting to sound like a gang fight, believe me, gang fights have more rules.

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...slugfest for the SuperBowl berth!! but ever mindful that real gentlemen play Rugby.
Having played 7 years at the hooker position incl captaining a 70's college team and international tours with the San Jose Seahawk Rugby club, which just held a 50 year reunion, I barely squeezed into my 48 year-old old heavily padded jersey to attend; I can state unequivacally that 'Merican football is 'Rugby fer pußies!. The career-ending broken jaw was a blessing in disguise; I retired in my late 20's.... all the reunion 70+ year olds who played longer till their 40's were in walkers, wheelchairs or no longer above ground
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Played it at school but can't say I liked it, much preferred football/soccer.
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I don't really want to play or watch, I just want to do the haka.
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Its pretty easy to try out.
You (or your parents) need to have a good medical plan in place.
After that, all you need is a good pair of cleats and your tallest pair of black socks, the most minimal pair of shorts in your drawer, and a really thick Rugby shirt (the thickness minimizes the blood stains and keeps the mud out of your open wounds).
When they ask if you have a cup, say "No, why would I have a cup?" and you'll be welcomed to the team.

Always remember the first rule of Rugby- DON'T GET CAUGHT. The rule book is fairly flexible when it comes to moves that would get you suspended in other sports.
If this is all starting to sound like a gang fight, believe me, gang fights have more rules.

My parents will be SO receptive to this new sport!
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cool If we can hold out....till 2031!

RUGBY BETS IT CAN CONQUER AMERIKA WITH ITS WORLD CUP
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In 1920 and 1924, the U.S. won Olympic gold medals in rugby—and then the sport largely receded from view there. Now rugby is about to complete its centurylong climb back to the American spotlight.
At a meeting in Dublin on Thursday, the World Rugby Council is expected to award the 2031 men’s Rugby World Cup and the 2033 women’s World Cup to the U.S.
The move is a gamble that a premier global sporting event can stage its biggest event in a place where its audience and participation are modest—and the national federation, Rugby USA, was in bankruptcy proceedings as recently as 2020.
Rugby types like to say their quadrennial showpiece ranks behind only soccer’s FIFA World Cup and the Summer Olympics in global sporting interest. An EY report on the 2019 tournament, held over 44 days in prepandemic Japan, claimed the event added 2.3 billion pounds to the host nation’s GDP and attracted 242,000 international fans who stayed an average 17 days. Rugby USA projects 3.1 million tickets could be sold for a 48-match men’s World Cup. Two dozen cities have pledged to host matches in either or both 2031 and 2033. President Biden wrote a letter of support to World Rugby in early April.
Rugby’s presence in the U.S. remains small, though. USA Rugby says there are now about 109,000 registered high school, college and adult players, but half that number drop out annually. The pro Major League Rugby (MLR) is in its fifth year and averages about 3,000 spectators per match for its 13 teams, which operate under a $500,000 annual salary cap.
USA Rugby officials forecast the events will cost $500-600 million to host, and World Rugby chief executive Alan Gilpin says the global governing body will seek private capital sources to help fund the sport’s growth in the U.S. during the next decade and hopefully beyond.
The awarding of the tournament to the U.S. is the culmination of an unlikely quest by the country’s rugby enthusiasts, who put time, effort and their own money into securing.
Darren Gardner, a native of Australia who is an employment relations partner for a San Francisco firm, has spent 22 years in the U.S. spreading the rugby union gospel, coaching junior teams and more recently as part-owner of MLR’s San Diego Legion. His fellow devotees include real estate financier Ryan Patterson, also a one-time junior rugby coach whose investments include a San Diego restaurant group.
Another enthusiast is fitness group F45 Holdings chief executive Adam Gilchrirst, an Austin, Tex-based Australian who sells his own beer and cocktail drinks on the sidelines at home games of his MLR teams, the LA Giltinis and Austin Gilgronis. (The team names combine Gilchrists’ surname with a Martini and a Negroni, respectively.)
The trio lead a group that has quietly bankrolled the four-year effort to win the World Cup bid, paying for feasibility studies and consultancy work.
“The U.S. rugby community is as passionate as any in the world and I believe that hosting RWC will transform the sport of rugby in the U.S.,” says Gardner.
Yet there is still a feeling of incredulity in local rugby circles that the showpiece of their sport is about to be awarded to the U.S.
“There’s an almost an ‘I can’t believe this is going to happen’ feeling still going on within the rugby community and there’s also an element of ‘I don’t know if they know what’s coming either’ — it’s going to be huge,” says Rugby USA chief executive Ross Young.
Gilpin says the sport could easily keep rotating its World Cup between established rugby nations like England; 2023 host France; New Zealand, home of the fearsome All Blacks; and South Africa. But that would not fulfill its mandate to grow the sport internationally.
“If we’re going to create the kind of growth — audience growth, revenue growth and ultimately hopefully participation growth — it is through these events in the U.S.,” says Gilpin.
The U.S. has since gained “preferred candidate” status for 2031 and 2033 (Australia has it for 2027 and 2029 for the women’s event) and has been in “targeted dialogue” with World Rugby.
“It means we are not talking to anyone else,” World Rugby’s Gilpin tells the Journal.
There is still considerable risk. USA Rugby entered into, and later exited, chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2020. The nonprofit cited “existing financial challenges” that were accelerated by Covid, including a $40 million lawsuit brought by event promoter United World Sports over the loss of a contract to run the annual USA 7s tournament. The lawsuit was later settled for $200,000 and USA Rugby then exited chapter 11, with World Rugby pledging support. Under a new operating model, World Rugby will take on more of the financial burden, and hopefully the reward, of hosting all future World Cups.
Private-equity firms CVC Capital Partners and Silver Lake have invested in rugby, paying $509 million for a 14.3% stake in the annual men’s Six Nations tournament and a still to be determined share of the $2.34 billion New Zealand Rugby commercial venture respectively.
“There are lots of parties interested in investing in sport more broadly, and certainly lots of parties that are interested in investing in rugby. Can we work with some of those parties to drive some parts of that plan more effectively? The answer is probably yes.”
Growth plans include more matches for U.S. national teams in a regular calendar, a target of 450,000 players by 2031, a Pan-Pacific competition for the women’s team and NCAA recognition for women’s’ rugby.
Killebrew says expansion of MLR, which for now features veterans from around the world and young local players, is in the works and envisages the possibility of a 28-team competition by 2031. “We look for $25 million from potential owners, in expansion fees and working capital, and interest has certainly grown with the upcoming World Cup announcement.”
All that is left now for a better performance on the field. The women’s side is ranked sixth and will play in their World Cup in New Zealand in September.
Meanwhile, the men’s USA Eagles have struggled through their qualifying section for 2023, with many of its European-based players not released by their clubs, and face Chile in a two-match repechage in July to win through to France next year.
USA Rugby’s Young winces at the topic, but says the Eagles should get through. “Touch wood it’s a better time of year to be playing the games, given the European season will be over.”
Weeeeel....here''s hopin' https://www.wsj.com/articles/rugby-w...rts_major_pos7
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Lol, look at it this way. If NHL hockey or NFL football were ever played without pads and helmets there would be far more carnage and death than the most intense rugby game ever played!

Our games are so tough you could die if you play them without armoring up.

People DID die playing football back when they wore simple leather helmets.


I played some rugby back when I lived in Northern Ireland and usually enjoy watching it, but I prefer American Football - unfortunately I live in a country where most folks only know soccer.
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