Pigs CAN fly.....

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Gerald

What kind of aircraft was that? Or did your crew sleep so they not manage the AA gun's in time.... well, maybe it's was a kimazke pilot...

...been a semester since you posted @ John P. Did U execute a hard-90⁰ turn as U crash dived?

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

...been a semester since you posted @ John P. Did U execute a hard-90⁰ turn as U crash dived?

No, never have. See above, no reason to; they can't hit anything anyway.
Sometimes i get that silly and meaningless flak gun and forward deck minor damage (how can my crew even tell that outside damage when we're submerged......) but that's no big deal.

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by John Pancoast

they can't hit anything anyway.

Don’t know what you’re playing, but got hitted (sometimes very badly) plenty times … almost each time I’m not fast enough to dive and reach the quite safe 70m

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Don’t know what you’re playing, but got hitted (sometimes very badly) plenty times … almost each time I’m not fast enough to dive and reach the quite safe 70m

Strange. My experiences have been with base NYGM, base GWX, and various "Frankenstein" installs.
All the same; ordnance is dropped off to the side of my path, to long, to short, etc.
I can't recall EVER receiving serious damage from an aircraft's standard bombs or depth charges. (I don't consider the above flak gun/forward deck as serious). FIDO and MAD Catalina excepted.
Heck, at 40 meters I go to all slow until crash depth is reached.

[propbeanie]

I am not the best sub skipper in any of the SH series by any stretch, especially SH3 GWX, but I usually die-by-plane also. I have had my fair share of depth-charged demises, but by far, the airplanes are what get me... I do not remember having ever made it past July 1943 from a 1939/40 start, and even if I start in 42 or 43, getting past 44 - for me - is very difficult... lol - I am definitely not the most patient skipper on / in the Atlantic, but in certain areas, I spend more time avoiding targets, than attacking... Doenitz has not been happy with me more than once...

[John Pancoast]

That's really strange, especially with the too long rwr ranges. Easy to be well under water long before the plane is anywhere even remotely close with them.
But I crash dive immediately upon warning or sighting as was the historical preference (once Doenitz's absurd short lived "fight it out on the surface" order was over); maybe you guys don't sometimes ?

[propbeanie]

My one thought is, when does the RWR become available, and does it automatically get added, or does a player have to purchase it? I do not remember being offered it in GWX, but I may have overlooked it on the upgrade screen in the Office... Of course, as I said, I do usually die early, like Dec 42 or usually no later than April 1943 (but I do have fun getting there)... I am usually damaged first, and then sunk on a 2nd or 3rd encounter, as you describe above... though there have been a few "one bomb wonders" that put it right down the conn hatch... as usually happens in SH4 also, if you are caught on the surface. Luke Skywalker and the DeathStar kind of drops, you know? - the ones that almost always get me are the groups of planes, where 2 or more planes take their turns at dropping, and I do see some near-misses, but I almost always have some damage, even when I'm already past PD before they get close to me. I do not have any "crew" on my AA guns either, unless I am unable to dive and HAVE to stay topside... So when I get a prompt, I crash dive ASAP. I usually drive a Type IX as soon as I can, so maybe you're doing a VII, and that's the diff? Besides not having an RWR, that I am aware of??