Did this ever happen? (RSRD)

[Bubblehead1980]

Watched a video on youtube and youtube suggested Run Silent Run Deep. I have the movie, a digital copy, and dvd actually lol but when movie is right there for free, I am transiting to patrol area Corn Field off Palau from Pearl, so long voyage, I figured why not.

(link to movie)




Anyways about the 26:00 mark, crew member is on deck dumping trash just as dive alarm sounds during drill. Naturally, he hurriedly scurries up to the bridge to get below but hatch shuts and crew member is locked out as boat submerged furiously pounding on the hatch, but is forced to climb into the lookout nest on the periscope shears, which are partially submerged before boat stops diving and surfaces, thanks to alert XO (Lancaster), who heard the knocking.


Just wondering if , like many things that are incorporated into the sub movies, this really happened?


I know of the BARB, Ensign Teeters was left on the bridge in November 1944 off Sasebo, he knocked and uttered "Hey! Let me in!" lol. However, that was not nearly as close of a call as in the movie.

I know some of of the men lost during war, simply disappeared after surfacing, fell overboard etc. but again, wondering if any incidents happened as portrayed in the movie. I am not aware of any, but even with in depth research have conducted, plenty of stories am not aware of I am sure, perhaps others are.

Thanks in advance

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Watched a video on youtube and youtube suggested Run Silent Run Deep. I have the movie, a digital copy, and dvd actually lol but when movie is right there for free, I am transiting to patrol area Corn Field off Palau from Pearl, so long voyage, I figured why not.

Anyways about the 26:00 mark, crew member is on deck dumping trash just as dive alarm sounds during drill. Naturally, he hurriedly scurries up to the bridge to get below but hatch shuts and crew member is locked out as boat submerged furiously pounding on the hatch, but is forced to climb into the lookout nest on the periscope shears, which are partially submerged before boat stops diving and surfaces, thanks to alert XO (Lancaster), who heard the knocking.


Just wondering if , like many things that are incorporated into the sub movies, this really happened?


I know of the BARB, Ensign Teeters was left on the bridge in November 1944 off Sasebo, he knocked and uttered "Hey! Let me in!" lol. However, that was not nearly as close of a call as in the movie.

I know some of of the men lost during war, simply disappeared after surfacing, fell overboard etc. but again, wondering if any incidents happened as portrayed in the movie. I am not aware of any, but even with in depth research have conducted, plenty of stories am not aware of I am sure, perhaps others are.

Thanks in advance

that scene was scripted for dramatic purposes in order to promote the conflict between the two main characters in the screenplay.

the conflict in the book was of a totally different nature. in the book the two characters were in conflict over the competency of the junior officer to command at sea. in the movie the conflict was about the alleged theft of command of a boat headed out on patrol.

in all of the stories i heard, before, during, and after my naval service, none of them included a mess steward almost lost while dumping trash just prior to a diving drill.

[Mad Mardigan]

Interesting tid bit...

The sub that was used to rep the USS Nerka (SS-380 which was a Balao class, that was authorized during World War II, but cancelled on 29 July 1944.) was the:

USS Redfish (SS-395)

which was used for most of the exterior shots, in the movie.



M. M.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

Interesting tid bit...

The sub that was used to rep the USS Nerka (SS-380 which was a Balao class, that was authorized during World War II, but cancelled on 29 July 1944.) was the:

USS Redfish (SS-395)

which was used for most of the exterior shots, in the movie.



M. M.

Yes that was interesting, noticed it when looking up info on Balao Class one time, saw Nerka was a canceled boat.

Do you know if they used the Redish for interior shots as well? If not, most realistic interior set of a WW II sub movie. Some of the other movies, can clearly set it was not built to spec but was a movie set lol.

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Yes that was interesting, noticed it when looking up info on Balao Class one time, saw Nerka was a canceled boat.

Do you know if they used the Redish for interior shots as well? If not, most realistic interior set of a WW II sub movie. Some of the other movies, can clearly set it was not built to spec but was a movie set lol.

yes, well, here's the thing.
shooting a movie has certain requirements/constraints, such as a stable camera and lighting and sound. there are more requirements/constraints, but let's leave at this.
the interior of a submarine is cramped, is completely metal, and not well lit.
so...if one wants to make a movie and include interior shots of a submarine, their best bet for success is to build an accurate replica-set with: camera space, better sound environment and lighting appropriate for motion picture distribution.
otherwise, it looks like a home movie, shot by you or me in our living room....which is fine for home movies but not so fine for a motion picture.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

yes, well, here's the thing.
shooting a movie has certain requirements/constraints, such as a stable camera and lighting and sound. there are more requirements/constraints, but let's leave at this.
the interior of a submarine is cramped, is completely metal, and not well lit.
so...if one wants to make a movie and include interior shots of a submarine, their best bet for success is to build an accurate replica-set with: camera space, better sound environment and lighting appropriate for motion picture distribution.
otherwise, it looks like a home movie, shot by you or me in our living room....which is fine for home movies but not so fine for a motion picture.

I get that, but you can tell who in production design bothered to do research and make a accurate set vs. just throwing something together. Examples of getting it right....Run Silent Run Deep, Das Boot. Even the horrible and I mean horrible "USS Seaviper", at least the monstrosity was actually shot aboard Drum SS -228 in Mobie, AL. If they had a decent story, would have been okay. lol

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

that scene was scripted for dramatic purposes in order to promote the conflict between the two main characters in the screenplay.

the conflict in the book was of a totally different nature. in the book the two characters were in conflict over the competency of the junior officer to command at sea. in the movie the conflict was about the alleged theft of command of a boat headed out on patrol.

in all of the stories i heard, before, during, and after my naval service, none of them included a mess steward almost lost while dumping trash just prior to a diving drill.

Thanks for the info. I have not heard of this either in real life, figured it was added for the movie. I mean it could have happened, but not that am aware of it. Guess closest was the Barb incident I mentioned "Hey! Let me in!" and well, the poor souls who went top side but disappeared when went submerged.