Deck Gun Ammo ?

Aktungbby · 12-26-21, 04:55 PM

ravenzahadoom!

nice 14 year necro!

John Pancoast · 12-26-21, 05:21 PM

I can't look in detail right now, but in the stock game the relevant menu entries start at G38 I3. Searching the menu.ini file for the shells will give you all you need to know.
If you know what you're doing these entries can easily be added to any gui, though with a widescreen gui, one would have to change it's position entries to fit the widescreen gui.
Be careful if you don't know how to work with the menu.ini file as screwing it up will cause the game to not load, etc.

ravenzahadoom · 12-26-21, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by John Pancoast

I can't look in detail right now, but in the stock game the relevant menu entries start at G38 I3. Searching the menu.ini file for the shells will give you all you need to know.
If you know what you're doing these entries can easily be added to any gui, though with a widescreen gui, one would have to change it's position entries to fit the widescreen gui.
Be careful if you don't know how to work with the menu.ini file as screwing it up will cause the game to not load, etc.

Damn, I have no idea how these files work, not much of a modder.

I am good at following instructions though which is how I usually manually mod games by using past examples.

I wonder if that's too much to ask? Think of it this way, it might help 100's of people in the future

as this thread will be near the top of an 'sh3 deckgun ammo not showing' google search.

John Pancoast · 12-26-21, 09:21 PM

I'd be glad to but as I can't run that gui I wouldn't be able to test it and going back and forth without myself being able to test it first would be a huge mess, especially when trying to get the positions correct.
But in a very general nutshell, here's what to do. Jump in, the waters fine.

1. Make a backup of your existing menu.ini file. Only work with that copy.
2. Copy the shells info. you're wanting from a menu.ini that has it in it. I.e., stock. An easy search of the file will find what you need.
3. Paste that info. at the end of the relevant section of the file. In this case from my earlier glance at the file, the G38 section may be where to look. But via your search of the file, double check this.
There is another way to add info. to the file but use this way for now.
4. Now renumber the entries you put into the file. I.e. if the last number of the last existing entry in G38 is G38 I10, the first entry you put in would be G38 I11. Each new entry you put in gets the next number in sequence.
Make sure this is right or the game won't load.
5. If not present in your install, add the relevant .tga files to it. Their name and location would be in the file entries you copied from the file you're using to work with.
6. Note the Position line in the entries. You will need to adjust these to fit where you want the icons to show in the gui.
7. When done, save the file and make a JSGME mod folder to install it with. Do not simply copy/paste any files over the existing ones unless you enjoy re-installing the game.
At one time there was a guide to working with the menu.ini file somewhere. Maybe try a google for it.

Mad Mardigan · 12-26-21, 09:46 PM

@ravenzahadoom...

Sage advice there, that is, from John Pancoast.

M. M.

FUBAR295 · 12-26-21, 11:49 PM

Latemail has a tutorial manual for the Menu_1024_768.ini file here ;

https://www.mediafire.com/file/jgde6...IniPdf.7z/file

should help you.

Make sure you follow John's advise, you will not go wrong.

Good hunting,
FUBAR295

ravenzahadoom · 12-27-21, 02:45 PM

Thanks for the info guys, I'll see what I find in the menu.ini files. Also I found no menu.cfg file, was that just a typo on MM's part on the post from back in 2007?

And to be sure, what I'm looking for is the settings from the original menu_1024_768.ini that are missing from the widegui's menu_1024_768.ini (even tho it's actually 1920x1080) in relation to shells (check around G38).

And Fubar thanks for the link, but I totally did not understand that guide at all, I'm guessing the author's first language isn't english?

I think if I can just transfer over the settings from the original ini I can live with it not looking in the right place for widescreen (as long as it's clickable), funny thing is the widegui mod does indeed have the tga files for the shells which is weird, so I guess the modder adapted the mod for super mod use sometime later and just forgot to delete the shell files, or maybe the game just needs those files present even if not used.

Ohh and one last thing, do I need to add anything to en_menu.txt? this file from what I can tell has the pop text when you hover over menu/UI elements.

12-26-21, 04:55 PM	#1
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,051 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard! ravenzahadoom! nice 14 year necro! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

12-26-21, 05:21 PM	#2
John Pancoast Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Minnysoda Posts: 3,211 Downloads: 501 Uploads: 4	I can't look in detail right now, but in the stock game the relevant menu entries start at G38 I3. Searching the menu.ini file for the shells will give you all you need to know. If you know what you're doing these entries can easily be added to any gui, though with a widescreen gui, one would have to change it's position entries to fit the widescreen gui. Be careful if you don't know how to work with the menu.ini file as screwing it up will cause the game to not load, etc. __________________ "Realistic" is not always GAME-GOOD." - Wave Skipper

12-26-21, 09:21 PM	#4
John Pancoast Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Minnysoda Posts: 3,211 Downloads: 501 Uploads: 4	I'd be glad to but as I can't run that gui I wouldn't be able to test it and going back and forth without myself being able to test it first would be a huge mess, especially when trying to get the positions correct. But in a very general nutshell, here's what to do. Jump in, the waters fine. 1. Make a backup of your existing menu.ini file. Only work with that copy. 2. Copy the shells info. you're wanting from a menu.ini that has it in it. I.e., stock. An easy search of the file will find what you need. 3. Paste that info. at the end of the relevant section of the file. In this case from my earlier glance at the file, the G38 section may be where to look. But via your search of the file, double check this. There is another way to add info. to the file but use this way for now. 4. Now renumber the entries you put into the file. I.e. if the last number of the last existing entry in G38 is G38 I10, the first entry you put in would be G38 I11. Each new entry you put in gets the next number in sequence. Make sure this is right or the game won't load. 5. If not present in your install, add the relevant .tga files to it. Their name and location would be in the file entries you copied from the file you're using to work with. 6. Note the Position line in the entries. You will need to adjust these to fit where you want the icons to show in the gui. 7. When done, save the file and make a JSGME mod folder to install it with. Do not simply copy/paste any files over the existing ones unless you enjoy re-installing the game. At one time there was a guide to working with the menu.ini file somewhere. Maybe try a google for it. __________________ "Realistic" is not always GAME-GOOD." - Wave Skipper Last edited by John Pancoast; 12-26-21 at 11:01 PM.

12-26-21, 09:46 PM	#5
Mad Mardigan Admiral Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi. Posts: 2,327 Downloads: 491 Uploads: 0	@ravenzahadoom... Sage advice there, that is, from John Pancoast. M. M. __________________

12-26-21, 11:49 PM	#6
FUBAR295 Krusty Krab Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Decks awash in the North Atlantic Posts: 1,451 Downloads: 493 Uploads: 0	Latemail has a tutorial manual for the Menu_1024_768.ini file here ; https://www.mediafire.com/file/jgde6...IniPdf.7z/file should help you. Make sure you follow John's advise, you will not go wrong. Good hunting, FUBAR295 __________________ Good judgment comes from experience. Unfortunately, the experience usually comes from bad judgment.

12-27-21, 02:45 PM	#7
ravenzahadoom Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2021 Posts: 5 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the info guys, I'll see what I find in the menu.ini files. Also I found no menu.cfg file, was that just a typo on MM's part on the post from back in 2007? And to be sure, what I'm looking for is the settings from the original menu_1024_768.ini that are missing from the widegui's menu_1024_768.ini (even tho it's actually 1920x1080) in relation to shells (check around G38). And Fubar thanks for the link, but I totally did not understand that guide at all, I'm guessing the author's first language isn't english? I think if I can just transfer over the settings from the original ini I can live with it not looking in the right place for widescreen (as long as it's clickable), funny thing is the widegui mod does indeed have the tga files for the shells which is weird, so I guess the modder adapted the mod for super mod use sometime later and just forgot to delete the shell files, or maybe the game just needs those files present even if not used. Ohh and one last thing, do I need to add anything to en_menu.txt? this file from what I can tell has the pop text when you hover over menu/UI elements.