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Old 11-22-21, 01:10 AM   #1
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Fubar:
Ok more detail -
Click on Sonarman >>get 3 icons (Report/Hydroplane/Sonar)
Click on Report . three icons (Last/Nearest/Warship) ...great, works just fine
Click on Hydroplane, three icons...none of which is labelled with no pop up as to what they do or represent.
Click on Sonar, two icons...none of which is labelled and no pop up - again no label to tell the user what they do

A new problem:
On mission, get Message, "Return to base for special mission." OK did that and sailed back to Wil..haven.
Then...hit Esc to end the patrol, now what? Save/Exit? did that and now the program loads but crashes to desktop. Should one now select just Exit or what? No instruction or guidance when one gets the "Return to base...") message.
These kind of loose ends drive the user crazy and leave him hanging with no direction as to how to correct or avoid a crash.But require him to start the mission over from the beginning.

Please keep in mind I'm an Old Timer at SH3 and GreyWolves. And trying to actually help solve stuff, not just complain.
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Old 11-22-21, 09:22 AM   #2
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In referring to a equipment calendar, radar, sonar and bold are not available till early 1942, that may explain the non function of those buttons.

The radio signal is for immersion purposes, you can follow the orders and return to base or simply ignore them. Since you did follow the orders and returned to base, that ends your current undertaking, so you would want to Save and Exit, and start a new patrol.

Hope this helps.
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A new problem:
On mission, get Message, "Return to base for special mission." OK did that and sailed back to Wil..haven.
Then...hit Esc to end the patrol, now what? Save/Exit? did that and now the program loads but crashes to desktop. Should one now select just Exit or what? No instruction or guidance when one gets the "Return to base...") message.
These kind of loose ends drive the user crazy and leave him hanging with no direction as to how to correct or avoid a crash.But require him to start the mission over from the beginning.

Please keep in mind I'm an Old Timer at SH3 and GreyWolves. And trying to actually help solve stuff, not just complain.
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Other forum threads mention to always save your game before entering or leaving base. I do this and I think it is a good idea. It gives me a place to start over again if something doesn't go as planned or expected.

When you have orders to return to base be careful not to arrive at base too soon. It can mess up the games calendar of events.

I am trying to find information that might help you with the unknown icons you mention, my problem is that I am unable to reproduce this effect so far.
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Old 11-22-21, 02:50 PM   #4
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Fubar and Willow:
I think the problem re: the Radio/Sonar icons is as Fubar mentions and I alluded to earlier: That they are linked to not-yet-available equipment which will appear with the type ViiC when it becomes operational and is upgraded.
So I'll comfortably ignore them.

RE: return to base orders...did not know that one could actually ignore orders from Doenitz or Staff. Especially if those orders are expanded to say that there is a "special mission assigned". Seems counter to the Kriegsmarine standards. In this case, I scooted back as quickly as possible so your note re: returning 'too soon' may be in play...hope have not screwed things up too much.

I do not Save before leaving base, but that may be a good idea. I have saved after leaving the exit locks so if I have to re-start I can do so without going through the hassle of the locks all over again.

Oh, what is the WolfPack Water Effects Patch doing here? Not relevant to LSH3 is it? If that is true, it may confuse some less experienced users. If it is useful, should there be some message that ii can be installed?
Thanks for the replies.
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Old 11-22-21, 03:44 PM   #5
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RE: return to base orders...did not know that one could actually ignore orders from Doenitz or Staff. Especially if those orders are expanded to say that there is a "special mission assigned". Seems counter to the Kriegsmarine standards. In this case, I scooted back as quickly as possible so your note re: returning 'too soon' may be in play...hope have not screwed things up too much.

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In looking at the Radio messages, if you are currently at sea on 1 March 1940, and you have gotten the message :

19400301 500 19400301 2300 1 100 60 @Befehlshaber der Unterseeboote@||KOMMANDANTENSPRUCH - U-BOATS ATLANTIC||Abandon current patrol and return to base. Prepare to start next patrol until April, 2nd, 1940. You are ordered for special task!

this a prelude to Operation Wesserubung. If you return to base you can participate in the Norwedian Campaign starting 2 April 1940.

19400402 500 19400402 2300 1 100 60 @Befehlshaber der Unterseeboote@||KOMMANDANTENSPRUCH - U-BOATS ATLANTIC||When operation „Weserübung“ starts, fully use of all weapons against enemy ships is allowed in Norwegian waters.||BdU

However, most times there is no additional orders in some of the super mods, and you can ignore some of them. There are no consequences from BdU if you do. It is solely up to you. This one does have a followup orders.
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