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Old 11-02-21, 03:28 PM   #1
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The difference between Communism and Capitalism is that under Communism, Man exploits Man but under Capitalism it is the other way around.

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The difference between Communism and Capitalism is that under Communism, Man exploits Man but under Capitalism it is the other way around.

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Always thought that quote was far too oversimplified to be valid. There's a vast difference between underpaid fast food workers and the Gulag. There's a vast difference between the FBI and the KGB.

Personal liberties and freedom exist in capitalist societies to varying to degrees. They have never existed in Communist societies. They are authoritarian right from the minute they get into power which they almost always take violently.
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Жизнь в Советском Союзе при разных генсеках, тоже была разной. Коммунизм при Сталине отличался от коммунизма при Хрущеве, при Андропове, при Черненко, при Брежневе. Это разные эпохи и периоды. Нельзя сваливать всё в одну кучу.

Разница между работниками Фастфуда и ГУЛАГ огромная. Первые - свободный рабочий человек, второй - Главное управление исправительно-трудовых лагерей.

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"We pretend to work, they pretend to pay us."
"Летела лопата, попала в болото -
Какая оплата, такая работа"
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У меня вопрос - почему ваши индейцы ( коренные жители Америки) , живут в резервациях, при капитализме? Коммунизм, если дополнить вашу мысль, это порабощение человека государством. Капитализм, это порабощение человека отдельно взятым миллиардером. Верно? Не думайте обо мне плохо) На самом деле разница конечно есть и она огромна, но , что хуже, коммунизм или капитализм я бы с вами поспорил. Потому что коммунизм везде разный. Возьмите хотя бы коммунистов из СССР( при Ленине), сравните их с коммунистами сегодня и взгляните на коммунистов северной Кореи. Это совсем разные идеологии

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У меня вопрос - почему ваши индейцы ( коренные жители Америки) , живут в резервациях, при капитализме? Коммунизм, если дополнить вашу мысль, это порабощение человека государством. Капитализм, это порабощение человека отдельно взятым миллиардером. Верно? Не думайте обо мне плохо) На самом деле разница конечно есть и она огромна, но , что хуже, коммунизм или капитализм я бы с вами поспорил. Потому что коммунизм везде разный. Возьмите хотя бы коммунистов из СССР( при Ленине), сравните их с коммунистами сегодня и взгляните на коммунистов северной Кореи. Это совсем разные идеологии
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Tried Translate, but even there I could not get a grip of it.

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У меня вопрос - почему ваши индейцы ( коренные жители Америки) , живут в резервациях, при капитализме? Коммунизм, если дополнить вашу мысль, это порабощение человека государством. Капитализм, это порабощение человека отдельно взятым миллиардером. Верно? Не думайте обо мне плохо) На самом деле разница конечно есть и она огромна, но , что хуже, коммунизм или капитализм я бы с вами поспорил. Потому что коммунизм везде разный. Возьмите хотя бы коммунистов из СССР( при Ленине), сравните их с коммунистами сегодня и взгляните на коммунистов северной Кореи. Это совсем разные идеологии
Я не понима́ю русский. Tovarisch. This is what translate gave to me. Hope its accurate:

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‎I have a question - why do your Indians (Native Americans) live on reservations, under capitalism? Communism, to supplement your point, is the enslavement of man by the state. Capitalism is the enslavement of man by a single billionaire. Faithfully? Don't think badly of me) Actually, there is a difference of course and it is huge, but what is worse, communism or capitalism I would argue with you. Because communism is different everywhere. Take the Communists from the USSR (under Lenin), compare them to the Communists today and look at the Communists of North Korea. These are completely different ideologies.‎
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Well some of our Indians do live on reservations but they are not at all forced to stay there. Think of them as family owned land where the family is their Tribe.

You claim that Capitalism is enslavement by a single billionaire but it's not at all like real slavery. Any worker in America can and has quit his job at the drop of a hat and gone to work for someone else or even started their own business. Try telling a communist official from any communist country to "take this job and shove it" and see what happens.

That' my friend is the real difference between capitalist and communist systems. The communist state has far more coercive power than a private entity will ever hold in a capitalist system.
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Мой друг, напишу воспоминания моего дедушки. Образование - бесплатно, медицина - бесплатно, квартира при устройстве на работу - бесплатно. В школах существуют радиоклубы, аэроклубы, автоклубы и т п.
Частный бизнес при коммунизме был. К 1953 году в СССР было 114 000 частных артелей, примерно 100 частных конструкторских бюро, 22 частные экспериментальные лаборатории, 2 частных научно-исследовательских института. Я забыл добавить колхозные рынки.
«Try telling a communist official from any communist country to "take this job and shove it" and see what happens.» - почитайте кодекс законов о труде (ссср), и защита прав рабочих там всё написано. И это работало по настоящему.

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El español es muy hermoso) solo estoy teniendo una discusión con amigos)
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El español es muy hermoso) solo estoy teniendo una discusión con amigos)

Não, não é. Ele diz ser feio!
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