Subsim & Windows 11

Red Devil · 07-06-21, 07:38 PM

I am curious. How does the Win 11 intervention intercede with Subsim.? I have win 10 Home and want to know what the interaction twixt the two equates. There is no way I am going to allow Win 11 screw up Subsim.

Moonlight · 07-08-21, 09:51 AM

There's some debate about most people's computers being unable to run Windows 11 in the first place, if this is true Microsoft will have willingly shot themselves in the foot.
I expect what he says in the video will all be changed in the final release version, if not, don't worry about it as Win 10's retirement date is not until 14/10/2025.

pabbi · 10-20-21, 03:35 PM

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz 2.81 GHz

Installed RAM 16,0 GB

System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Edition Windows 11 Home

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB

250 GB hard drive

2 TB storage drive

This is my computer, it runs all my games very well SH3 SH4 and some other games

Red Devil · 10-20-21, 04:25 PM

Not tested on my pc but my surface tablet says no, defo NO!

Mad Mardigan · 10-20-21, 05:45 PM

Myself... just had updater for Window's... try to push Me to a Win 11 update... I think.

Computer rebooted on Me, no warning... when it booted back up, got some message box that popped up & read:

"Oh, we're sorry, but... you're NOT able to upgrade to Win 11."

I agree with moonlight...

Windows, just shot themselves... majorly...

M. M.

propbeanie · 10-20-21, 06:11 PM

I am on a Windows Insider hub, and my machine has attempted 3 Win11 updates without my permission on the "Insider" computer - but that's what it is. MS did re-release the System Checker tool to help see if you are "ready" for Windows 11, and does have better results now:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...reviewpchealth

download the appropriate version for your computer. I do not know for certain, but if memory serves correctly, it will not run from Win7. The problem with Win11 is that you need a UEFI "bios", AND a "Trusted Platform Module" (TPM), which is what kills it for ALL of the computers in my house... I do have two computers with UEFI, but they are NOT new enough for a TPM. Supposedly, rumor has it (such a reliable source) that after 1st Jan 2022, that there will be another version of Win11 that will be compatible with older hardware. Don't hold your breath...

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...d-7674389a7ba3

Mad Mardigan · 10-20-21, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

I am on a Windows Insider hub, and my machine has attempted 3 Win11 updates without my permission on the "Insider" computer - but that's what it is. MS did re-release the System Checker tool to help see if you are "ready" for Windows 11, and does have better results now:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...reviewpchealth

download the appropriate version for your computer. I do not know for certain, but if memory serves correctly, it will not run from Win7. The problem with Win11 is that you need a UEFI "bios", AND a "Trusted Platform Module" (TPM), which is what kills it for ALL of the computers in my house... I do have two computers with UEFI, but they are NOT new enough for a TPM. Supposedly, rumor has it (such a reliable source) that after 1st Jan 2022, that there will be another version of Win11 that will be compatible with older hardware. Don't hold your breath...

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...d-7674389a7ba3

Microshaf... urhm... Microsoft, can kiss My aft quarters...

Ain't King Solomon... & NOT gonna go broke, going out & buying a brand new computer...

Win 11, is Win 8 debacle, all over again...

dunno what movie I'm remembering this line from, but...

Dey never learn...

M. M.

Red Devil · 10-21-21, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

I am on a Windows Insider hub, and my machine has attempted 3 Win11 updates without my permission on the "Insider" computer - but that's what it is. MS did re-release the System Checker tool to help see if you are "ready" for Windows 11, and does have better results now:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...reviewpchealth

download the appropriate version for your computer. I do not know for certain, but if memory serves correctly, it will not run from Win7. The problem with Win11 is that you need a UEFI "bios", AND a "Trusted Platform Module" (TPM), which is what kills it for ALL of the computers in my house... I do have two computers with UEFI, but they are NOT new enough for a TPM. Supposedly, rumor has it (such a reliable source) that after 1st Jan 2022, that there will be another version of Win11 that will be compatible with older hardware. Don't hold your breath...

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...d-7674389a7ba3

I tried the top link, it says you are not an insider, go forth and multiply!!

1Patriotofmany · 10-21-21, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

Microshaf... urhm... Microsoft, can kiss My aft quarters...

Ain't King Solomon... & NOT gonna go broke, going out & buying a brand new computer...

Win 11, is Win 8 debacle, all over again...

dunno what movie I'm remembering this line from, but...

Dey never learn...

M. M.

I think of 10 being win8, Frankly I would have paid a yearly subscription to keep winXP and win7 updated and secure. Easiest I've worked with and most compatible especially XP with older games. I hate 10, I can imagine what 11 will be.

propbeanie · 10-21-21, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Devil

I tried the top link, it says you are not an insider, go forth and multiply!!

Oh wow! Rude!!! Let me see if I can find a "clean" link that is NOT associated with Windows Insider...

Edit: ... wait... it IS a Preview app... whuh? One site says Insiders only, another says use the Windows 11 page and that there is a link there... but unless I'm logged-in, I don't see no shtinking link... ?? It apparently is STILL not ready for primetime. hmmm... gettin' kind of late in the game for this.

like 1Patriotofmany, I prefer XP over 7 (and over all others), other than the 64-bit niceties of 7 for LAA with SH4 and the newer audio plug-ins I use, which while I had a 64-bit edition of XP, most stuff did NOT work in it, and its 32-bit kludge was a kludge... sigh - so a lot of 32-bit stuff wouldn't work either... So I now have two "isolated" computers in the basement with one being a DOS / Win98 machine (old old games - amazing how good some of those still are), and another being an XP-only machine for my "professional" audio recording, but without any of the 'modern' plug-ins that are 64-bit and/or Win7 or better only... I cannot afford to continually 'upgrade' everything I own like "they" insist. Don't get me started on "subscriptions"...

Red Devil · 10-21-21, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Oh wow! Rude!!! Let me see if I can find a "clean" link that is NOT associated with Windows Insider...

ahaha!!!

1Patriotofmany · 10-22-21, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Oh wow! Rude!!! Let me see if I can find a "clean" link that is NOT associated with Windows Insider...

Edit: ... wait... it IS a Preview app... whuh? One site says Insiders only, another says use the Windows 11 page and that there is a link there... but unless I'm logged-in, I don't see no shtinking link... ?? It apparently is STILL not ready for primetime. hmmm... gettin' kind of late in the game for this.

like 1Patriotofmany, I prefer XP over 7 (and over all others), other than the 64-bit niceties of 7 for LAA with SH4 and the newer audio plug-ins I use, which while I had a 64-bit edition of XP, most stuff did NOT work in it, and its 32-bit kludge was a kludge... sigh - so a lot of 32-bit stuff wouldn't work either... So I now have two "isolated" computers in the basement with one being a DOS / Win98 machine (old old games - amazing how good some of those still are), and another being an XP-only machine for my "professional" audio recording, but without any of the 'modern' plug-ins that are 64-bit and/or Win7 or better only... I cannot afford to continually 'upgrade' everything I own like "they" insist. Don't get me started on "subscriptions"...

LOL We sound the same. Crusty old men. I still have XP64 and win98SE and multitudes of dos and windows 98 games. CGA/EGA state of the art graphics LOL. Harpoon was an awesome game at the time then Harpoon2. Battle of Britain, Secret weapons of the luftwaffe, Doom, all the doom extensions, now I'm way off topic. I could list all the games I've spent money on. Still have 5.25 floppies even. Probably my heirs will throw them all out.

propbeanie · 10-22-21, 01:33 PM

Well... a C-64 with "Up Periscope" and "Hunt For Red October" is what I blame for starting this fire of an obsession... lol - btw, it is in the corner of the basement plugged-in and still used also - :yikes:

1Patriotofmany · 10-23-21, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Well... a C-64 with "Up Periscope" and "Hunt For Red October" is what I blame for starting this fire of an obsession... lol - btw, it is in the corner of the basement plugged-in and still used also - :yikes:

Same here, that's awesome, C64 started it all for me with "real computers", I still have a bunch of c64 games along with a c64 and the 1541 drive. I did have a C128 at one time also. Can't say I pull that out of the closet much. I also have hunt for red october. Red Storm rising was pretty good back in the day too. Pretty cool how much computing power and graphics have advanced in our lifetime. I think of the 80's as the golden age. I still have an Amstrad 512 8086/8088 also. I think it was a whopping 2 MHZ processor IIRC. LOL

Red Devil · 10-23-21, 11:41 AM

Its not that long ago when I thought a pc was a policeman

07-06-21, 07:38 PM	#1
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	Subsim & Windows 11 I am curious. How does the Win 11 intervention intercede with Subsim.? I have win 10 Home and want to know what the interaction twixt the two equates. There is no way I am going to allow Win 11 screw up Subsim. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

07-08-21, 09:51 AM	#2
Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,522 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	There's some debate about most people's computers being unable to run Windows 11 in the first place, if this is true Microsoft will have willingly shot themselves in the foot. I expect what he says in the video will all be changed in the final release version, if not, don't worry about it as Win 10's retirement date is not until 14/10/2025. __________________

10-20-21, 03:35 PM	#3
pabbi Subsim Overlord Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: On the top of the world Posts: 215 Downloads: 455 Uploads: 0	Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz 2.81 GHz Installed RAM 16,0 GB System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor Edition Windows 11 Home NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 250 GB hard drive 2 TB storage drive This is my computer, it runs all my games very well SH3 SH4 and some other games __________________ On the top of the world

10-20-21, 04:25 PM	#4
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	Not tested on my pc but my surface tablet says no, defo NO! __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

10-20-21, 05:45 PM	#5
Mad Mardigan Admiral Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi. Posts: 2,327 Downloads: 491 Uploads: 0	Myself... just had updater for Window's... try to push Me to a Win 11 update... I think. Computer rebooted on Me, no warning... when it booted back up, got some message box that popped up & read: "Oh, we're sorry, but... you're NOT able to upgrade to Win 11." I agree with moonlight... Windows, just shot themselves... majorly... M. M. __________________

10-20-21, 06:11 PM	#6
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,100 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	I am on a Windows Insider hub, and my machine has attempted 3 Win11 updates without my permission on the "Insider" computer - but that's what it is. MS did re-release the System Checker tool to help see if you are "ready" for Windows 11, and does have better results now: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...reviewpchealth download the appropriate version for your computer. I do not know for certain, but if memory serves correctly, it will not run from Win7. The problem with Win11 is that you need a UEFI "bios", AND a "Trusted Platform Module" (TPM), which is what kills it for ALL of the computers in my house... I do have two computers with UEFI, but they are NOT new enough for a TPM. Supposedly, rumor has it (such a reliable source) that after 1st Jan 2022, that there will be another version of Win11 that will be compatible with older hardware. Don't hold your breath... https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...d-7674389a7ba3 __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

10-22-21, 01:33 PM	#13
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,100 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Well... a C-64 with "Up Periscope" and "Hunt For Red October" is what I blame for starting this fire of an obsession... lol - btw, it is in the corner of the basement plugged-in and still used also - :yikes: __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

10-23-21, 11:41 AM	#15
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	Its not that long ago when I thought a pc was a policeman __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk