Surprise: the Big Bang isn’t the beginning of the universe anymore

Arlo · 10-15-21, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

I have, based on all the documentary I've seen, heard and read, created my own theory.

I didn't know you were an astrophysicist.

mapuc · 10-15-21, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlo

I didn't know you were an astrophysicist.

I'm not an astrophysicist far from it.

I just like to create own theory about what's going on in our universe.

Markus

Arlo · 10-15-21, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

I'm not an astrophysicist far from it.

I just like to create own theory about what's going on in our universe.

Many a non-realistic point of view started that way. Flat-Earthers, for instance.

mapuc · 10-15-21, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlo

Many a non-realistic point of view started that way. Flat-Earthers, for instance.

I do NOT believe in flat-earth theory.

If people want to believe it they are welcome to do so.

Markus

Arlo · 10-15-21, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

I do NOT believe in flat-earth theory.

If people want to believe it they are welcome to do so.

Nor do I. But, yes, people are indeed welcome to believe their own made up theories. But I'm not gonna let a surgeon that made up their own medical degree operate on me. Nor am I going to argue with a community of astrophysicists using my own theory of the universe based on a documentary I once saw. Just sayin'.

mapuc · 10-15-21, 03:55 PM

I do not claim that I'm absolutely correct in my home made theories when it comes to our universe.

Heck from what I know there could be nothing but emptiness and from nowhere the universe startet to expand.

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Just having difficulty to believe nothingness can exist.
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Markus

Arlo · 10-15-21, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

I do not claim that I'm absolutely correct in my home made theories when it comes to our universe.

Heck from what I know there could be nothing but emptiness and from nowhere the universe startet to expand.

Well, I guess questioning your own home made theories is a good start.

Skybird · 10-15-21, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Just having difficulty to believe nothingness can exist.

Good, that is a sign for your sanity.

But you may misunderstand it alltogether. Linearity may be the enemy of imagination.

Pick any of these for start.

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...auss+lawrence+

Reece · 10-15-21, 06:19 PM

God created the universe!

Platapus · 10-17-21, 11:19 AM

I think that the idea that humans have any understanding of how the universe was formed or even operates is hubris to a ridiculous extent.

We can form hypotheses from our single point of observation and we can test them across a tiny span of the Universe. That's what we do.... That's all we can do at this time

But that should never be confused with actual understanding of something this big and this old. Even our basic concept of size and time start to fail when applied to the Universe.

Maybe if we can study the universe for a million years or so from different observation points, we might start to garner an understanding.

Platapus · 10-21-21, 03:59 PM

Sean C · 10-15-21, 03:48 PM

Meh. The article linked in the OP begins by stating the big bang isn't the beginning, and concludes by saying that:

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Inflation could have gone on for an eternity, it could have been preceded by some other nonsingular phase, or it could have been preceded by a phase that did emerge from a singularity.

IOW, the big bang theory is no less plausible than before. More precisely: we're now even less sure whether or not it is the right theory - and we may never know.

Don't get me wrong, it's still fascinating. Just a bit of click-bait at the beginning ... as usual.

What really interests me is the idea of "time" itself in [or "before"] these extremely early states.

10-15-21, 03:55 PM	#6
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I do not claim that I'm absolutely correct in my home made theories when it comes to our universe. Heck from what I know there could be nothing but emptiness and from nowhere the universe startet to expand. Edit Just having difficulty to believe nothingness can exist. End edit Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

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Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,715 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	God created the universe! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,369 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I think that the idea that humans have any understanding of how the universe was formed or even operates is hubris to a ridiculous extent. We can form hypotheses from our single point of observation and we can test them across a tiny span of the Universe. That's what we do.... That's all we can do at this time But that should never be confused with actual understanding of something this big and this old. Even our basic concept of size and time start to fail when applied to the Universe. Maybe if we can study the universe for a million years or so from different observation points, we might start to garner an understanding. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,369 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	__________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.