Your Ideal Doomsday Survival Situation/Prepper Thread

Jimbuna · 10-14-21, 07:30 AM

Are these intended for outdoor use only Sky?

August · 10-14-21, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Are these intended for outdoor use only Sky?

Of course they are, they burn wood and coal. You guys are acting like these are new inventions but these jet stoves have been around for decades.

Onkel Neal · 10-14-21, 08:06 AM

Yeah, I didn't mean to imply these are new tech, but in conjunction with the dutch oven and the casters, it's a pretty neat set up.

August · 10-14-21, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Yeah, I didn't mean to imply these are new tech, but in conjunction with the dutch oven and the casters, it's a pretty neat set up.

I understand. But do you really think so? To me Dutch ovens were designed to bury into live coals so that the heat surrounds it and cooks the food evenly. They weren't meant to sit on top of a burner like a soup pot.

Skybird · 10-14-21, 08:54 AM

"Rocket oven" not so much means a new gadget, but a principle of maintaining a cooking fire in the open, and efficiently. You find a comparable principle in socalled Dakota fire-holes. It means in general that fresh air gets to the fire from a separate second air intake, instead of just through the "chimney" opening where the cooking pot of meat or pan is placed. That way, more air gets delivered to the fire, you reach higher burning temperature, less smoke, less use of fuel. The thick isolaiton also focusses the heat on where it is wanted, instead of radiating at all directions.

I have build similiar constructions by use of brickstones and wild debris/stones.

"New", or modern, is that these specific types of ovens have been produced in huge quantities for delivery to households in the third world where they have no access to gas, coal and so forth.

For campers it is interesting that the fire is strictly controlled, the danger to set a forest ablaze by flying sparks is very small with these items.

Jim, always use these outdoors. If you fire these well and maybe use a ventilator, the flames can shoot like a rocket fire 30-50cm out of the chimney, I have seen that in real life. These ovens then even hiss (fauchen). Impressive. Usually not needed.

I will try some pulled pork in the Dutch oven sometime in the future. Good brickets on the rocket oven and on the pot's lid. I mean I cannot make an open camp fire on my balcony...

Skybird · 10-14-21, 09:00 AM

BTW, I red on the website of the manufacturer of the Ecozoom why they raised their prices from 120 to 170 coins, and have problems to deliver. Its because of shipping containers. Usually, half a container, they write, costs 500 coins. Currently, at the time they posted it on their website, half a container costs 9500 coins...

ET2SN · 10-14-21, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by August

To me Dutch ovens were designed to bury into live coals so that the heat surrounds it and bakes the beans evenly.

Corrected slightly.

There is nothing better than New England Baked Beans, especially when cooked outdoors in an authentic bean hole.

August · 10-14-21, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ET2SN

Corrected slightly.

There is nothing better than New England Baked Beans, especially when cooked outdoors in an authentic bean hole.

Oh yeah. Lotsa molasses and brown sugar. Served with home baked corn bread.

Aktungbby · 10-14-21, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ET2SN

Corrected slightly.

There is nothing better than New England Baked Beans, especially when cooked outdoors in an authentic bean hole.

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Originally Posted by August

Oh yeah. Lotsa molasses and brown sugar. Served with home baked corn bread.

My Massachusetts-born wife cans everything incl homemade baked beans, jams, tomato sauce et al to serve with chicken or turkey hotdogs since I avoid red meat these days

...deeeelicious!

10-14-21, 07:30 AM	#1
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10-14-21, 08:54 AM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,694 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	"Rocket oven" not so much means a new gadget, but a principle of maintaining a cooking fire in the open, and efficiently. You find a comparable principle in socalled Dakota fire-holes. It means in general that fresh air gets to the fire from a separate second air intake, instead of just through the "chimney" opening where the cooking pot of meat or pan is placed. That way, more air gets delivered to the fire, you reach higher burning temperature, less smoke, less use of fuel. The thick isolaiton also focusses the heat on where it is wanted, instead of radiating at all directions. I have build similiar constructions by use of brickstones and wild debris/stones. "New", or modern, is that these specific types of ovens have been produced in huge quantities for delivery to households in the third world where they have no access to gas, coal and so forth. For campers it is interesting that the fire is strictly controlled, the danger to set a forest ablaze by flying sparks is very small with these items. Jim, always use these outdoors. If you fire these well and maybe use a ventilator, the flames can *shoot* like a rocket fire 30-50cm out of the chimney, I have seen that in real life. These ovens then even hiss (fauchen). Impressive. Usually not needed. I will try some pulled pork in the Dutch oven sometime in the future. Good brickets on the rocket oven and on the pot's lid. I mean I cannot make an open camp fire on my balcony... __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-14-21, 09:00 AM	#6
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,694 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	BTW, I red on the website of the manufacturer of the Ecozoom why they raised their prices from 120 to 170 coins, and have problems to deliver. Its because of shipping containers. Usually, half a container, they write, costs 500 coins. Currently, at the time they posted it on their website, half a container costs 9500 coins... __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.