FB is down - Page 2

Jeff-Groves · 10-04-21, 02:12 PM

I'm just wondering if a programmer I know is responsible!

According to him? He can drop Nations with some groundbreaking software he has written.

I heard He was going to target China after a test deployment.

mapuc · 10-04-21, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

I'm just wondering if a programmer I know is responsible!

According to him? He can drop Nations with some groundbreaking software he has written.

He can only affect the server his account is on.

From what I have learned about how fb works your account is placed on a server in your country or in a country near you.

A world wide shutdown indicate it's not a technical problem.

My little sister said it's not the first time FB went down around the globe.

I can't recall it.

Markus

Jeff-Groves · 10-04-21, 02:22 PM

If this Guy says he can do it? I believe he can!
He is the BEST programmer I have EVER met in my life!

I'm wonder if he has brought 'Jack the Ripper' online as a test.

I can't get details on this system right now but it's nothing like any of us here have in our homes!
And the software, according to him, will change things in a way no one can comprehend.

mapuc · 10-04-21, 02:38 PM

According to the news here in Denmark.

FB has problem with their DNS server.

Maybe this could be the reason to why this breakdown is world wide.

Markus

Jeff-Groves · 10-04-21, 02:43 PM

You have any idea how many DNS Servers are actually out there?
Or how DNS actually works?
Given one has a powerful enough system and the right software?
One could destroy DNS listings World Wide!

Say that system and software hides it self and continues a World Wide attack.
How could you trace and stop it?

I'd not be surprised if I get a knock on my door from the Feds if JTR is live!

mapuc · 10-04-21, 02:50 PM

A DNS make you come to the right homepage like subsim.com/radioroom when you enter the name in your URL field. You could also enter subsims ip-adress(numbers) directly.

I could be wrong though.

Edit
Made search on how DNS works and found this

Quote:

DNS allows a domain name to be associated with an IP address. So instead of typing an IP address that consists of a large number of numbers, you can, for example, type Facebook.com in the browser, and then DNS will redirect you to the correct website.

However, it is apparently Facebook's DNS that is down, which is why the website cannot be accessed.

For example, Google has the IP address 172.217.16.67. Here, the DNS Servers ensure that when you enter Google, it is converted to 172.217.16.67.

End edit

Markus

Jeff-Groves · 10-04-21, 02:54 PM

You are partially correct. But those records are online and can be destroyed!

DOS attacks are one thing. DNS attacks are a whole different thing!
Given one has a system with enough CPU power behind it, a totally new software doing it, and the bandwidth?

Good luck stopping it!

Then add in the fact he is willing to go to prison after he attacks China?
How soon you think he would be stopped?

Here's FB's IP address.
69.171.228.70

mapuc · 10-04-21, 03:05 PM

Forgot this information about these DNS-server

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All these web addresses and their IP address are then posted to so-called Root Servers, so that no matter where in the world you are, you can access an internet page to use the website's IP address.

If this information does not reach these Root Servers due to a local crash on Facebook's Domain Name Service, then after some time they will be deleted on the Root Servers, which will mean that the website will crash.

Don't know what that mean in plain English.
Especially the last sentence.

Markus

Admiral8Q · 10-04-21, 04:52 PM

Remember, the internet was invented as a redundant computer network to prevent centralization and keep working even after multiple attacks. Centralizing like FB has proved how easy it is to take that server (servers) offline. I'm guessing the a.i. algorithms made it even easier.

Heh heh!

Anyways, time to go shopping then...

Eichhörnchen · 10-04-21, 04:55 PM

Facebook is back on

Notifications panel won't work, however: when you try to open a notification you first get "Query Error", then "Oops... something went wrong"

Also, posting isn't working either, so it may as well be down

Skybird · 10-04-21, 05:08 PM

The tecnical problems seem to have gone beyond FB, since other oparts of the internet have been reporte dform saroudn the globe to have broken down, internet providers saying websites in parts were not accessible, even regionally total blackouts, in germany as well , have been reported. Over here, all provider companies had/have been affected.

A cyberattack is seen as unlikely, since DNS servers, the likely cause of the problems, are too diverse in specs to knock them out simultaneously on such a scale.

mapuc · 10-04-21, 05:11 PM

It was a man made failure at FB which was the reason to this major breakdown. So it says in a Danish newspaper.

Markus

Admiral8Q · 10-04-21, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

It was a man made failure at FB which was the reason to this major breakdown. So it says in a Danish newspaper.

Markus

You nay be right. Most want to blame an "attack". FB has been screwy for at least a month already. It's probably a overload failure of the a.i. algorithms.
Of course I wouldn't rule out an "attack", though if so it would be easy to push it over the edge, metaphorically.

Otto Harkaman · 10-04-21, 05:41 PM

a bet a squirrel got into the system causing havoc storing nuts

Skybird · 10-04-21, 05:47 PM

If so, a job well done. I know why I love squirrels so much.

A single compoany amassing so manby facets and market accesses, represents a fundamental lump risk, in multiple dimensions: material, financial, cultural, economical, legal, technical...

Too big. Way too big, like many others, too. These become a threat to the common good.

10-04-21, 02:38 PM	#19
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	According to the news here in Denmark. FB has problem with their DNS server. Maybe this could be the reason to why this breakdown is world wide. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

10-04-21, 02:43 PM	#20
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,651 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	You have any idea how many DNS Servers are actually out there? Or how DNS actually works? Given one has a powerful enough system and the right software? One could destroy DNS listings World Wide! Say that system and software hides it self and continues a World Wide attack. How could you trace and stop it? I'd not be surprised if I get a knock on my door from the Feds if JTR is live! Last edited by Jeff-Groves; 10-04-21 at 02:52 PM.

10-04-21, 02:54 PM	#22
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,651 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	You are partially correct. But those records are online and can be destroyed! DOS attacks are one thing. DNS attacks are a whole different thing! Given one has a system with enough CPU power behind it, a totally new software doing it, and the bandwidth? Good luck stopping it! Then add in the fact he is willing to go to prison after he attacks China? How soon you think he would be stopped? Here's FB's IP address. 69.171.228.70 Last edited by Jeff-Groves; 10-04-21 at 03:03 PM.

10-04-21, 04:52 PM	#24
Admiral8Q Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Prince Edward Island, Canada Posts: 1,077 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Remember, the internet was invented as a redundant computer network to prevent centralization and keep working even after multiple attacks. Centralizing like FB has proved how easy it is to take that server (servers) offline. I'm guessing the a.i. algorithms made it even easier. Heh heh! Anyways, time to go shopping then... __________________

10-04-21, 04:55 PM	#25
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,394 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Facebook is back on Notifications panel won't work, however: when you try to open a notification you first get "Query Error", then "Oops... something went wrong" Also, posting isn't working either, so it may as well be down __________________ Last edited by Eichhörnchen; 10-04-21 at 05:06 PM.

10-04-21, 02:12 PM	#16
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,651 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	I'm just wondering if a programmer I know is responsible! According to him? He can drop Nations with some groundbreaking software he has written. I heard He was going to target China after a test deployment.

10-04-21, 02:22 PM	#18
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,651 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	If this Guy says he can do it? I believe he can! He is the BEST programmer I have EVER met in my life! I'm wonder if he has brought 'Jack the Ripper' online as a test. I can't get details on this system right now but it's nothing like any of us here have in our homes! And the software, according to him, will change things in a way no one can comprehend.

10-04-21, 05:08 PM	#26
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,632 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The tecnical problems seem to have gone beyond FB, since other oparts of the internet have been reporte dform saroudn the globe to have broken down, internet providers saying websites in parts were not accessible, even regionally total blackouts, in germany as well , have been reported. Over here, all provider companies had/have been affected. A cyberattack is seen as unlikely, since DNS servers, the likely cause of the problems, are too diverse in specs to knock them out simultaneously on such a scale. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-04-21, 05:11 PM	#27
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	It was a man made failure at FB which was the reason to this major breakdown. So it says in a Danish newspaper. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

10-04-21, 05:41 PM	#29
Otto Harkaman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 1,176 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	a bet a squirrel got into the system causing havoc storing nuts __________________ "If you want to know the age of the Earth, look upon the sea in a storm." -Joseph Conrad USS Pompano (SS-181) https://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-pompano-181.htm

10-04-21, 05:47 PM	#30
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,632 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	If so, a job well done. I know why I love squirrels so much. A single compoany amassing so manby facets and market accesses, represents a fundamental lump risk, in multiple dimensions: material, financial, cultural, economical, legal, technical... Too big. Way too big, like many others, too. These become a threat to the common good. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.