Modern Era Submarine II

UglyMowgli · 09-24-21, 08:31 PM

Well WW II sims are "easier" to code and develop since there is tons of documentation, reports, blueprints,....

Serious modern sub sims have to deal with a void of information and rely only on open source documents with all the variations on the data. And the Silent Service is loudly silent so the devs have to speculate on almost everything, except maybe the color of the CO chair.

Julhelm · 09-27-21, 02:25 AM

Actually it's because the prevailing perception is that 'WW2: Guaranteed sale' whereas Cold War, modern day is seen as abstract and scary. I had to pitch very hard, for years, the concept that ended up becoming Cold Waters.

skin-nl · 10-04-21, 01:47 PM

@Maslas

Will there be a physical release with a big user guide?

The game looks very awesome...definitely a must buy for me

UglyMowgli · 10-04-21, 05:06 PM

Big one like the one we used to have with Microprose in the 90's? No.

User guides are just a big waste of paper , describing the menus, buttons, screens, .... but never the howto and more importantly the why to use them in a given situation.

I think some will wrote a good tactical guide with missions to play to learn the ropes of the game in depth.

maslas · 10-04-21, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skin-nl

@Maslas

Will there be a physical release with a big user guide?

The game looks very awesome...definitely a must buy for me

Since we are old timers like others in this forum, seeing MNW on a printed version "even a limited one" is like a dream to come true. Getting a hard copy in hand and waiting to check out the contents inside it was the real magic, even the printed label of the floppies was cool to see.

But believe it or not, the decision to a printable version of MNW means a delay in the release from 1 to 6 months depending on various reasons (the size of the book is one of the many).
Furthermore, the publisher might take the initiative to create a printed limited edition after release only if he is absolutely sure that a specific amount of copies are sold for sure else the initiative won't be profitable to him.

Is there a way to make a poll on this thread?

Should a MNW printed version be released?

a. I don't care about papers and boxes just give MNW to the people.
b. If there is a printed version in the day of release I might buy it.
c. I would definitely wait for the additional days for the printed release.
d. Are you serious, I would buy limited edition even a year after release.

UglyMowgli · 10-04-21, 11:09 PM

a)

Save the trees. I am a treehugger.

FPSchazly · 10-05-21, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maslas

Since we are old timers like others in this forum, seeing MNW on a printed version "even a limited one" is like a dream to come true. Getting a hard copy in hand and waiting to check out the contents inside it was the real magic, even the printed label of the floppies was cool to see.

But believe it or not, the decision to a printable version of MNW means a delay in the release from 1 to 6 months depending on various reasons (the size of the book is one of the many).
Furthermore, the publisher might take the initiative to create a printed limited edition after release only if he is absolutely sure that a specific amount of copies are sold for sure else the initiative won't be profitable to him.

Is there a way to make a poll on this thread?

Should a MNW printed version be released?

a. I don't care about papers and boxes just give MNW to the people.
b. If there is a printed version in the day of release I might buy it.
c. I would definitely wait for the additional days for the printed release.
d. Are you serious, I would buy limited edition even a year after release.

You have to make a new thread for the poll

maslas · 10-05-21, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPSchazly

You have to make a new thread for the poll

Done...

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...21&postcount=1

Good idea!

skin-nl · 10-06-21, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maslas

But believe it or not, the decision to a printable version of MNW means a delay in the release from 1 to 6 months depending on various reasons (the size of the book is one of the many).
Furthermore, the publisher might take the initiative to create a printed limited edition after release only if he is absolutely sure that a specific amount of copies are sold for sure else the initiative won't be profitable to him.

Thanks Maslas for the reply

We need no delay

But a printed limited edition after release would be nice

crestofawave · 12-21-21, 06:47 AM

very late i guess to this party, but this looks really good, a more up to date/epic mods cold waters

look forward to this a will deff buy, where will you market it? steam/gog etc
price point? and any more info on how its coming on?

zachanscom · 01-20-22, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crestofawave

very late i guess to this party, but this looks really good, a more up to date/epic mods cold waters

look forward to this a will deff buy, where will you market it? steam/gog etc
price point? and any more info on how its coming on?

price point irrelevant. i will plop down 100 usd right now for early access and so will many others. cold waters cannot compare, it's more of an updated smart phone game. this is more like a pc sim built from the ground up. we have not seen this even attempted in 20+ years.

09-24-21, 08:31 PM	#1
UglyMowgli Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 784 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Well WW II sims are "easier" to code and develop since there is tons of documentation, reports, blueprints,.... Serious modern sub sims have to deal with a void of information and rely only on open source documents with all the variations on the data. And the Silent Service is loudly silent so the devs have to speculate on almost everything, except maybe the color of the CO chair. __________________ Modern Naval Warfare Community Manager

10-04-21, 01:47 PM	#3
skin-nl Kapitain Leutnant Join Date: May 2010 Location: GlanerBrucke Posts: 424 Downloads: 251 Uploads: 0	@Maslas Will there be a physical release with a big user guide? The game looks very awesome...definitely a must buy for me __________________

10-04-21, 05:06 PM	#4
UglyMowgli Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 784 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Big one like the one we used to have with Microprose in the 90's? No. User guides are just a big waste of paper , describing the menus, buttons, screens, .... but never the howto and more importantly the why to use them in a given situation. I think some will wrote a good tactical guide with missions to play to learn the ropes of the game in depth. __________________ Modern Naval Warfare Community Manager

10-04-21, 11:09 PM	#6
UglyMowgli Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 784 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	a) Save the trees. I am a treehugger. __________________ Modern Naval Warfare Community Manager

09-27-21, 02:25 AM	#2
Julhelm Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Icy North Posts: 693 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	Actually it's because the prevailing perception is that 'WW2: Guaranteed sale' whereas Cold War, modern day is seen as abstract and scary. I had to pitch very hard, for years, the concept that ended up becoming Cold Waters.

12-21-21, 06:47 AM	#10
crestofawave Nub Join Date: Dec 2021 Posts: 3 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	very late i guess to this party, but this looks really good, a more up to date/epic mods cold waters look forward to this a will deff buy, where will you market it? steam/gog etc price point? and any more info on how its coming on?