US Politics Thread 2021-24 - Page 143

Arlo · 08-31-21, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDef

Really, really, really

Why do you keep injecting Trump into a discussion about Biden and his actions? Is it because Biden has no defense and so deflection is your pis aller?

Dunno, budro. Maybe because 'Biden's actions' aren't quite what you try to inflate them to be but you try to give Trump credit for things he hasn't done and ignore what he stupidly did. Maybe those attacking Biden in such a manner while slobber-worshipping his predecessor should consider actual critical thinking instead of what they think passes for such but .... fails.

Making up dung undercuts accurate criticism.

Arlo · 08-31-21, 05:24 PM

mapuc · 08-31-21, 05:29 PM

I think the person to blame is me.

It was me who started this comparison between Biden and Trump.

I did not look at the stab in the White house, but how the Afghan people and their army have reacted.

Markus

Rockstar · 08-31-21, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlo

Ummm a Democratic Party controlled congress controls the cash flow they could have ended it along time ago. But they didn’t. Instead they just distract people with stupid memes deflecting blame.

Arlo · 08-31-21, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

I think the person to blame is me.

It was me who started this comparison between Biden and Trump.

I did not look at the stab in the White house, but how the Afghan people and their army have reacted.

Markus

Don't take the blame.

Arlo · 08-31-21, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Ummm a Democratic Party controlled congress controls the cash flow they could have ended it along time ago. But they didn’t. Instead they just distract people with stupid memes deflecting blame.

What congress controlled by the Democratic party from when?

u crank · 08-31-21, 05:58 PM

On September 14, 2001, Senate Joint Resolution 23 (The Authorization for Use of Military Force) passed in the Senate by roll call vote. The totals in the Senate were: 98 Ayes, 0 Nays, 2 Present/Not Voting (Senators Larry Craig, R-ID, and Jesse Helms, R-NC).

On the same day The House passed House Joint Resolution 64. The totals in the House of Representatives were 420 ayes, 1 nay and 10 not voting. The sole nay vote was by Barbara Lee, D-CA.[9] Lee was the only member of either house of Congress to vote against the bill.

Arlo · 08-31-21, 06:20 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/107th_...tates_Congress

So the 107th Congress (which could hardly be described as a 'controlled by the Democrat party') that decided to let Bush invade without a genuine declaration of war on a sovereign state is the example of the clash flow issue.

u crank · 08-31-21, 07:03 PM

A Democrat President ended a war that Democrat Senators and Representatives voted almost unanimously to start.

Buddahaid · 08-31-21, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

A Democrat President ended a war that Democrat Senators and Representatives voted almost unanimously to start.

Well there was that 9-11 thing that left plenty of good ol' boys wanting to kick some towel head ass.

u crank · 08-31-21, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Well there was that 9-11 thing that left plenty of good ol' boys wanting to kick some towel head ass.

Yep. And those good ol' boys (and girls) of both political affiliations voted to do just that.

Arlo · 08-31-21, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

A Democrat President ended a war that Democrat Senators and Representatives voted almost unanimously to start.

That all senators and representatives voted for with a few exceptions in a congress that was anything but (D) dominated. That's a very big difference from the blame claim made. It was also twenty years ago at the start of the mess which is also different from the blame claim.

u crank · 08-31-21, 08:32 PM

When I was young and my brothers and I would get into trouble we would always try to blame each other for starting it. My Mother would say ... don't worry, there's plenty of blame to go around.

Rockstar · 08-31-21, 08:39 PM

Well arlo, the thing about Congress and the Senate is any one of them could have said something. I assume you voted for someone to represent you in D.C.

What did the one you voted for say or do to end this debacle. What were your expectations of your representative and did they advance your will or did they just blow you off knowing you’ll just vote them in again?

What boils down is it’s YOU and your vote which allowed this to happen.

Buddahaid · 08-31-21, 09:06 PM

What is the scope of that "this", the whole of Operation Enduring Freedom?

Talk about enduring....

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mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,596 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I think the person to blame is me. It was me who started this comparison between Biden and Trump. I did not look at the stab in the White house, but how the Afghan people and their army have reacted. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

08-31-21, 05:58 PM	#2137
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,749 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	On September 14, 2001, Senate Joint Resolution 23 (The Authorization for Use of Military Force) passed in the Senate by roll call vote. The totals in the Senate were: 98 Ayes, 0 Nays, 2 Present/Not Voting (Senators Larry Craig, R-ID, and Jesse Helms, R-NC). On the same day The House passed House Joint Resolution 64. The totals in the House of Representatives were 420 ayes, 1 nay and 10 not voting. The sole nay vote was by Barbara Lee, D-CA.[9] Lee was the only member of either house of Congress to vote against the bill. __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

08-31-21, 06:20 PM	#2138
Arlo The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 214 Uploads: 0	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/107th_...tates_Congress So the 107th Congress (which could hardly be described as a 'controlled by the Democrat party') that decided to let Bush invade without a genuine declaration of war on a sovereign state is the example of the clash flow issue. __________________ -Arlo

08-31-21, 07:03 PM	#2139
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,749 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	A Democrat President ended a war that Democrat Senators and Representatives voted almost unanimously to start. __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

08-31-21, 08:32 PM	#2143
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,749 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	When I was young and my brothers and I would get into trouble we would always try to blame each other for starting it. My Mother would say ... don't worry, there's plenty of blame to go around. __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

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Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Well arlo, the thing about Congress and the Senate is any one of them could have said something. I assume you voted for someone to represent you in D.C. What did the one you voted for say or do to end this debacle. What were your expectations of your representative and did they advance your will or did they just blow you off knowing you’ll just vote them in again? What boils down is it’s YOU and your vote which allowed this to happen. Last edited by Rockstar; 08-31-21 at 08:51 PM.

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Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,333 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	What is the scope of that "this", the whole of Operation Enduring Freedom? Talk about enduring.... __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie