Afghanistan deadline

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

It will be a terror regime that's for sure.

Derailing the thread a little

Last time the Taliban was in charge the percentage of narko export fell from hundrede of thousands kilo per year down to around 1-2 %
After the invasion the export exploded, never had so many tons narko left Afghanistan during this 20 years occupation.

Now when the Taliban is back how much will this type of export go down.

Markus

Considering the money it makes, I doubt the Taliwhackers are going to stop or even slow the flow.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by mapuc

It will be a terror regime that's for sure.

Derailing the thread a little

Last time the Taliban was in charge the percentage of narko export fell from hundrede of thousands kilo per year down to around 1-2 %
After the invasion the export exploded, never had so many tons narko left Afghanistan during this 20 years occupation.

Now when the Taliban is back how much will this type of export go down.

Markus

Having only a feeble understanding of the history of the Taliban I’d say there’s a pretty good chance the drug trade will fall off again.

When the Soviets were in Afghanistan they couldn’t tell an enemy combatant from a dirt farmer. So they started shooting at every one, it was genocide. The Mujahideen remained behind to fight and the women and children fled to refugee camps in Pakistan.

Many of these children were sent to Islamic madrasa. There they were educated in the Koran, Shria law and some say even military tactics in order to fulfill their destiny. Being Islamic schools they left believing they had a mandate to make Afghanistan an Islamic State. They were on a mission from god.

In I think the early to mid nineties those children now adults returned to Afghanistan known as the Taliban. At first the majority of Afghans were greatfull because they brought order to the land through shria law. Thieves lost limbs, rapists were sentenced to death, corrupt officials were brought to trial and punished, opium trade took a hit. Of course enforcement of shria law didn’t help women much in the way of public life, jobs and education. But all of this was almost thirty years ago who knows how dedicated to Shria law they are now.

I’m sure everyone gets all giddy when they hear about the Northern Alliance and see all the flag waving. But they’re some of the biggest opium producers in Afghanistan. I’d wager they’re more concerned about protecting their poppy fields from the Taliban than they are women’s rights or Afghan freedom and democracy.

[Skybird]

The Taleban have hermetically sealed off the airport now and let pass only foreigners with papers and Afghans with valid travel papers.

Since for example the German government dramatically delayed and obstructed the handing out of visas since months while telling the German public that all Afghan helpers who file a visa request will get flown out, I think there is no more hope for 99 out of 100. Until jst days agao those visa could not be asked for anywhere else than in an insufficiently operating office in Kabul. The perfidy.

I absolutely think its realistic to assume that Europeans have issued some pressure or arrangements or promises via Pakistan that the taleban prevent too many Afghans leaving the country - and causing a new migration trek westward. 2016 on everybody's mind.

Once again Russia, and China, can play a trump card established since long: reminding the world of that if you trust the West, you will in the end get betrayed and left behind. Thats what Chinan and Russia usually do, too, of course. But thats what they do not tell.


Taiwan watches closely, I am certain. Yes, its the Pacific, yes its about China, and still: risking a big war with big losses - over this tiny island somewhere else?

I believe it when I see it.

Same is true for Europe. In this case I cannot criticise America, however,Europe is economically strong enough to care for its defence itself. Its just that it does not want that, but celebrates a supercostly "sociality" party instead.

[Catfish]

Was in the news that US guards at the airport in Kabul only let their own people through, even if they have german or UK papers, let alone afghan people with valid papers for a flight to other places than the US.

[Skybird]

That simple it maybe is not, Catfish. It seems the Germans fail again by not posting somebody at the gates checkign the papers.Thats what the US soldiers complain about and demand, FOCU writes:

In Afghanistan's capital Kabul, local helpers from German organizations are having difficulties getting to the airport for evacuation flights. Two local staff reported this to the German press agency on Thursday. On the one hand, the streets to the airport entrances are completely blocked and partly impassable. On the other hand, US soldiers would not let them in at the entrances. "The American soldiers only let their people through," said a local agent. At the time when the person was called to the airport, there was no one from the German side at the entrance. Another local officer reported that she tried to get into the airport from 8 p.m. to 2 a.m. A US soldier said that someone had to come over and check whether he was really a local German employee.

[Skybird]

Game, set and match to this analysis.

https://translate.google.com/transla..._16952281.html

Excellent.

[Skybird]

And a major of the German KSK special commandos setting accounts with cowardly, incompetent politicians.


https://translate.google.com/transla..._16839351.html

[Skybird]

After taking power in Afghanistan, the radical Islamic Taliban could use biometric data to search for critics. It is likely that the Taliban have gained access to biometric data, said the US human rights organization Human Rights First. These could include characteristics of individuals such as fingerprints, iris scans of the eye, or data for digitally recognizing faces. (Der Tagesspiegel)

[mapuc]

Heard in the news that the Taliban is lacking money

Hearing this I came to think of what I wrote yesterday

Will Taliban stop the Afghan narko export or will they take over and
earn money ?

Markus

[mapuc]

A friend posted this interesting link on his wall

This survey is from 2013 and 99% af the Afghan people prefer Sharia I don't think it has change since then.

https://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/...-about-sharia/

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Taliban 'carrying out highly organised manhunt'
The Taliban are carrying out a highly-organised door-to-door hunt for people on their wanted list, says the head of the group providing intelligence to the UN.

"What we have seen is that the Taliban, in advance of moving into all major cities in Afghanistan, not just Kabul, is that they have a more advanced intelligence system," Christian Nellemann, of the Norwegian Centre for Global Analyses, told the BBC.

"They have lists of individuals and even within the very first hours of moving into Kabul they began a search of former government employees - especially in intelligence services and the special forces units."

He said that, not only could this lead to mass executions, but also a "mass revealing of our methods and the intelligence networks that the West has provided. So this could undermine severely a number of our Western intelligence services."

As we reported earlier, the Norwegian Centre for Global Analyses’ report to the UN also said the Taliban are recruiting new informer networks to collaborate with their regime.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-asia-58219963

[Jimbuna]

[August]

He said that, not only could this lead to mass executions, but also a "mass revealing of our methods and the intelligence networks that the West has provided. So this could undermine severely a number of our Western intelligence services."


If the Taliban already have lists of Intelligence Service officials and Special Forces members in "all the major cities...., not just Kabul" then i'd say that ship has already sailed.

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by mapuc

A friend posted this interesting link on his wall

This survey is from 2013 and 99% af the Afghan people prefer Sharia I don't think it has change since then.

https://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/...-about-sharia/

Markus

I'm wondering what the gender of those surveyed was... I'm thinking plenty of women would have responded differently.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by 3catcircus

I'm wondering what the gender of those surveyed was... I'm thinking plenty of women would have responded differently.

Due to Islam's cultural thing I guess they have only asked male person above 18 years of age.

Markus