US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Collusion conspiracies, Bounty conspiracies, blackmail conspiracies, russian election hacking conspiracies, treason conspiracies. Seems the world is filled with gullible idiots.

Those things are at least plausible unlike Jewish space lasers, fake moon landings, fake Martian landings, flat earth, 5G, etc.....

[Skybird]

LINK: You wont believe how bancrupt the US is until you see this.


The innocence of numbers. Desillusionizing.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Those things are at least plausible unlike Jewish space lasers, fake moon landings, fake Martian landings, flat earth, 5G, etc.....

To the gullible what they believe is always plausable. Its one of the many reasons why they believe it.



https://www.healthline.com/health/me...iracy-theories

[Buddahaid]

Oops. Pretty funny slap to Texas Republicans.🤣

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-57343832

[MaDef]

Suffice to say, I feel the same about the 2nd amendment as Paxton does about the 14th. Yet I have to put up with all kinds of restrictions and regulations. Roe V Wade, allows women to get abortions, nothing in that ruling about unfettered access.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by MaDef

Suffice to say, I feel the same about the 2nd amendment as Paxton does about the 14th. Yet I have to put up with all kinds of restrictions and regulations. Roe V Wade, allows women to get abortions, nothing in that ruling about unfettered access.

However the governor of Texas just signed a bill banning abortion as early as six weeks into term. We'll see if it goes into effect in September.

[August]

Right to Lifers consider a fetus to be a person with the same right to life as its mother from the moment of it's conception. The Pro Choice side does not consider a fetus to be a person at all and therefore has no right to life until it is delivered into this world.

I fear that with such incompatible beliefs anchoring both sides there is no negotiating a lasting compromise on this issue.

[Buddahaid]

I hear you. The problem I have with the new law is it makes no exception for victims of rape, or incest.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I hear you. The problem I have with the new law is it makes no exception for victims of rape, or incest.

You know those are certainly terrible crimes to be sure but they are not the fault of the child. Unfortunately laws like that ensure that he is the one who will pay the biggest price for them. More than the perpetrator, more than even the victim, the child pays for the crimes of incest and rape with his very life.

[Buddahaid]

Well then I would suggest the state foot the medical bill, pay the mother compensation, and take responsibility for the child after birth.

[Rockstar]

The law does provide for abortion when the mothers health is in jeopardy. Does 'health of the mother' include mental health?


Also victims of rape or incest have an oportunity to report these incidents. So I imagine there would be ample time to abort the fetus.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

The law does provide for abortion when the mothers health is in jeopardy. Does 'health of the mother' include mental health?


Also victims of rape or incest have an oportunity to report these incidents. So I imagine there would be ample time to abort the fetus.

Interesting questions, so I decided to do a quick lookup on why women get abortions and tripped over a study by the "Guttmacher Institute" (AKA: pro-choice thinktank) The following is from a study they did in 2005 (don't know if there is anything more recent).

The reasons most frequently cited were that having a child would interfere with a woman's education, work or ability to care for dependents (74%); that she could not afford a baby now (73%); and that she did not want to be a single mother or was having relationship problems (48%).

The percentage of abortions for rape and incest were 1%, and .5% respectively. Health of the mother (12%) health of the baby (13%) were slightly higher.

The way I see it the fight over abortion access isn't about the 14th amendment anymore, it's morphed into women wanting
to "eat your cake and then still have it too". In that light I'm fine with restrictions and regulations limiting their access.

[Buddahaid]

A woman may not know they are pregnant for several weeks which can leave a small window for deciding. The male partner is also equally responsible for having that cake.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

A woman may not know they are pregnant for several weeks which can leave a small window for deciding. The male partner is also equally responsible for having that cake.

Perhaps children arent receiving a proper education about the birds and the bees? I would hope that by the time a man and women reach the age of consent. They should have pretty good understanding that contraception is not 100% effective and of the potential consequence of their actions. They got six weeks to start acting like responsible adults.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

The male partner is also equally responsible for having that cake.

We know in the real world this taking responsibility is never a certainty.