US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Skybird]

( It gets, got reported over here the boy was unarmed, had no gun. )

?!

edit: Correction, memory fooled me. I red about it last morning, on NBC and ABC.

Still, whatever it was like, there is something wrong on a structural level. The US has almost exactly four times as big a population than Germany. But we do not have a quarter of such incidents over here, but much, much less. Both true for cops shooting civilians, and amok shootings. And it is like this in many European countries, isn't it.

Something is seriously derailed in the US. Both with the police, and society. Obviously. I still think that Bowling for Columbine was on the right track to explain important aspects of it.

[mapuc]

The day after this young man was shot in Minneapolis the Danish Reporter in USA said:

The Common police here in USA is so badly trained, that these type of killing is not rare. If the training doesn't improve dramatically more of these killing will happen.
(Tried to remember every word he said)

Markus

[3catcircus]

There are really two major issues at play. For the younger crowd from an urban background, who are encountering police, it is almost always reflective of a break down in that person's community and home life. For older individuals from any background, there is often undiagnosed mental illness (or they were diagnosed but turned out because the US pretty much nearly completely ended state mental hospitals).

Focusing on the teenager in question:

Why is a 13-year old boy roaming the streets at 0430 with a handgun? Why is this person's street name "L'il Homicide?" Why does a 13-year old *have* a street name? Why does a 13-year old *have* a handgun without adult supervision. That police officer had 838 milliseconds between the time he saw the gun in the teen's hand and firing upon him. One can argue will day long about that, but it doesn't change the fact that a 13-yr old gangbanger was up to no good at 0430 while carrying a firearm that he obtained illegally.

Stepping back a few days, why is Daunte Wright not complying with law enforcement? Perhaps for the same reason he refused to comply with court orders and fled prior arrests for violent criminal behavior.

The same reason that George Floyd purposely passed counterfeit money while high as a kite while out of jail between stretches of criminal activity.

What was the percentage of minority youth in single parent homes up until the Great Society as compared to now? For several decades there has been a perverse incentive for people living in poverty to have many children while remaining unwed that has been bearing fruit poisonous to society as a result.

As tho the mentally ill, we've done away with state mental hospitals due to claims of abuse, but have nothing to replace them with. This, coupled with a stigma attached to admitting you are crazy but stable on medication or other treatment and a decidedly different coverage approach by most health insurers, results in a revolving door of people in need of mental health care ending up not receiving it. The best description of this problem can be seen in the comedian Doug Stanhope's standup routine comparing the mentally ill person who shot Gabby Giffords and other mentally ill (like his girlfriend Bingo) and people who are mentally handicapped.

[Rockstar]

Same office more lies but just more well spoken lies.

Someone Is Going to Get Hurt': Georgia Official Warns Biden That His 'Lies' About Voting Law Are Dangerous

Gabriel Sterling is the chief operation officer and chief financial officer in the office of the Georgia Secretary of State.

“Someone is going to get hurt.” I made that prediction four months ago regarding misinformation about the 2020 election. I was horrified to see it come true on Jan. 6.

The reaction to Georgia’s new election law has me worried again. Though I have not received any threats yet, thankfully, that same foreboding is creeping up again as the president of the United States and others once again spread lies about what is going on in Georgia.

So I plead with the president once again: Someone is going to get hurt. Your words matter. The facts matter.

In the weeks and months after Nov. 3, my boss and I, along with local election workers, received death threats because we would not bend to pressure from one president to alter the outcome of the election. It is disappointing to see the new president engage in similarly dangerous hyperbole.


...First, as The Post has correctly noted, the new legislation does not decrease early voting hours, though President Biden falsely claimed otherwise.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ece_story.html

[ET2SN]

[les green01]

Originally Posted by mapuc

The day after this young man was shot in Minneapolis the Danish Reporter in USA said:

The Common police here in USA is so badly trained, that these type of killing is not rare. If the training doesn't improve dramatically more of these killing will happen.
(Tried to remember every word he said)

Markus

hope you don't take this wrong but my experience with police is that reporter is full of crap my dealings with police they have always been highly trained and pros the key words here are show the police respect,do everything they are telling you to do,what not to do yelling cussing at them or start acting stupid and if you think you being wrongly target ask for the police supervisor to come out or go to the station next day and file a complaint but being calm and showing respect can get you out of the mess you was getting yourself into with maybe a warning depends what you was doing

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by les green01

hope you don't take this wrong but my experience with police is that reporter is full of crap my dealings with police they have always been highly trained and pros the key words here are show the police respect,do everything they are telling you to do,what not to do yelling cussing at them or start acting stupid and if you think you being wrongly target ask for the police supervisor to come out or go to the station next day and file a complaint but being calm and showing respect can get you out of the mess you was getting yourself into with maybe a warning depends what you was doing

Unless you are engaged in serious criminal acts, most of the time the cops don't want to be bothered by the paperwork associated with making an arrest.

What people fail to realize is that the police are a *consequence* of the law.

The other factor is the arms race between violent offenders and the militarization of police departments. It's especially exacerbated during riotous situations when spineless local governments and police department leadership refuse to use violence of action to stop rioters in their tracks because appeasement only emboldens them.

A policy of "rioters and looters will be shot on sight" is inherently a deterrent to bad behavior.

Outside of riotous situations, it begs the question - who taught these suspects that end up getting shot that it is in any way acceptable to violently resist arrest resulting from warrants being executed for prior violent criminal behavior? This isn't Communist China or a Banana Republic. People don't routinely die under interrogation after an arrest here. You believe you're being arrested unlawfully? Get a lawyer and fight it in court. Exercise your right to remain silent when being arrested. But arguing with a cop on a roadside stop and then pulling a weapon while fleeing is the first thing these suspects think of? Speaks volumes as to their upbringing...

[Rockstar]

Liberals, left wing, Democrats calling for more violence, AGAIN.


Definition of confrontation : a situation in which people, groups, etc., fight, oppose, or challenge each other in an angry way.

Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., drew attention for saying Saturday night that if a Minnesota jury does not convict Derek Chauvin of murder for the death of George Floyd, protesters should "get more confrontational," but this call to action was par for the course for the California Democrat.

I take it by the silence of hypocritical Democrats and all of the psycho war mongering Bidenettes they agree with her.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by les green01

hope you don't take this wrong but my experience with police is that reporter is full of crap my dealings with police they have always been highly trained and pros the key words here are show the police respect,do everything they are telling you to do,what not to do yelling cussing at them or start acting stupid and if you think you being wrongly target ask for the police supervisor to come out or go to the station next day and file a complaint but being calm and showing respect can get you out of the mess you was getting yourself into with maybe a warning depends what you was doing

Sorry forgot all about your response.

I felt that I should post what a Danish Reporter, standing on some boardwalk in Minneapolis said to us the viewer about the quality of the education an American police goes through.

I still remember him saying..
"Den almindelig politibetjent er dårlig trænet" ="The ordinary police is badly
trained"

Hearing those words I was thinking:
Wonder what my American friends has to say about these accusations ?

No other reason...as mentioned before I live under first directive..

Markus

[Texas Red]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Liberals, left wing, Democrats calling for more violence, AGAIN.


Definition of confrontation : a situation in which people, groups, etc., fight, oppose, or challenge each other in an angry way.



I take it by the silence of hypocritical Democrats and all of the psycho war mongering Bidenettes they agree with her.

Most people would say that she didn't incite violence
But even though I support Biden and the Democrats I do feel that she was inciting violence.

Or this is a really serious case of someone using words wrong...

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by El Whacko

Most people would say that she didn't incite violence
But even though I support Biden and the Democrats I do feel that she was inciting violence.

Or this is a really serious case of someone using words wrong...

Crazy Maxine has a long history of inciting violence.

[MaDef]

Most people would say that she didn't incite violence

Then those people are stupid, period.

[ET2SN]

Hey guys? Nothin' for nothin' but there's an RC-135 out of Offutt flying racetracks around my town. Are we in another war, again?

I'm not kidding.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by MaDef

Then those people are stupid, period.

If Trump didn't incite the capital violence then neither did she with her recent comments.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by ET2SN

Hey guys? Nothin' for nothin' but there's an RC-135 out of Offutt flying racetracks around my town. Are we in another war, again?

I'm not kidding.

Yes KJU has decided to end this problem and has thus begun to invade your lovely country.

Either it must be some kind of exercise. Perhaps surveillance due to the upcoming verdict.

Markus