[REL] Dark Waters

[FireDragon76]

I tried out the mod, playing one of the early war missions for the mod (the one where you have to sink the HMS Glorious- I tried using a Type II pigboat for laughs). The lighting and sound are amazing. The intreface is also well put together and stylish.




I usually play Silent Hunter at 1360x768, using Reshade with SMAA, TAA, and Adaptive Sharpen, just because my eyes don't see so good, and 1920x1080 has tiny text (with tweaked Reshade settings, 1320 looks almost as good as 1280, but the text and interface are bigger). It still worked OK, and since I use auto-aim, it's not a big deal to not have perfect aspect ratio.


However, I am having trouble finding the orders window. I don't understand alot of German so that makes it a bit confusing.

[rschilla]

there is traffic but you have to find the lanes, and that can be time consuming.

There is one obvious choke point - throughout history - which is between Tunisia and Sicily. I doubt that the British sent many ships through the straits of Messina so anything that comes through Suez pretty much has to end up heading for Gibraltar which means running the gauntlet between Axis air bases on either side of the choke point.


I put my uboat there for 10 days and slowly circled but in all that time encountered only a single merchant.

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by rschilla

There is one obvious choke point - throughout history - which is between Tunisia and Sicily. I doubt that the British sent many ships through the straits of Messina so anything that comes through Suez pretty much has to end up heading for Gibraltar which means running the gauntlet between Axis air bases on either side of the choke point.


I put my uboat there for 10 days and slowly circled but in all that time encountered only a single merchant.

yeah, know what you mean.

this is where i learned how to create my own traffic. have you ever used the Mission Editor? do you know about RGGs (Random Generated Groups)? if not, and you are interested, send me a PM and we can talk about it.

[propbeanie]

lurker_hlb3 did a lot of single runs of RGG in the Med, which followed "historical" runs, so most of the traffic is rather sporadic, except in support of other operations. However, there is some random groups that cross the Med and travel along the coasts. None of this was changed for Dark Waters, so as in real life, there will be day upon day of boredom, followed by interminable hours of sheer terror...



That is a photo-stitch of three of the layers for the Med, gotten from the Mission Editor.

[DeathOrGlory]

Is it possible to get medals and promotions for yourself in DW? I have sunk 30,0000+ tons in my current career and have completed multiple patrols yet I have not received any medals for myself (or my crew!).

Wondering if it's possible to get promoted to Kapitain Leutnant as well.

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by DeathOrGlory

Is it possible to get medals and promotions for yourself in DW? I have sunk 30,0000+ tons in my current career and have completed multiple patrols yet I have not received any medals for myself (or my crew!).

Wondering if it's possible to get promoted to Kapitain Leutnant as well.

if i remember properly, promotions are the result of successful mission objectives and medals are the result of renown from sinking tonnage during any one mission.

there is an algorithm for promotions but i cannot find it at the moment. IIRC (or somewhat correctly) each mission during a career is rated between 3 at the high end and -3 at the low end. you add your mission points and divide by the number of missions and if the average is 2+ basically, you will need 4 or more successful missions to get promoted. there is also a date-lapse factor involved in that you cannot get promoted after consecutive missions. failure early in a career is a career-killer.
edit: found this: After each patrol a calculation takes place: New_Campaign_Rating = Old_Campaign_Rating + Last_Patrol_Rating / 2

medals are awarded after you sink enough tonnage in one mission and not for sinking tonnage consistently over several missions. it is possible during one mission to sink over 100k tons and receive a medal and then get court martialed for sinking one of your ships or too many neutral ships.

and no, you cannot award yourself medals and promotions. (several jokes come to mind here but we will forsake the humor since we do not know each other).

there is neither a display to show you your current renown nor your current promotability score. that's Ubi for you.

[DeathOrGlory]

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

if i remember properly, promotions are the result of successful mission objectives and medals are the result of renown from sinking tonnage during any one mission.

there is an algorithm for promotions but i cannot find it at the moment. IIRC (or somewhat correctly) each mission during a career is rated between 3 at the high end and -3 at the low end. you add your mission points and divide by the number of missions and if the average is 2+ basically, you will need 4 or more successful missions to get promoted. there is also a date-lapse factor involved in that you cannot get promoted after consecutive missions. failure early in a career is a career-killer.
edit: found this: After each patrol a calculation takes place: New_Campaign_Rating = Old_Campaign_Rating + Last_Patrol_Rating / 2

medals are awarded after you sink enough tonnage in one mission and not for sinking tonnage consistently over several missions. it is possible during one mission to sink over 100k tons and receive a medal and then get court martialed for sinking one of your ships or too many neutral ships.

and no, you cannot award yourself medals and promotions. (several jokes come to mind here but we will forsake the humor since we do not know each other).

there is neither a display to show you your current renown nor your current promotability score. that's Ubi for you.

Thank you for your reply

It seems that no medals will be coming, as I have 100% realism settings and levels 2 convoy difficulty making it very hard to get a patrol with super high tonnage. I love it this way though, as even SH3 with GWX was a bit unrealistic with how many tons you could get away with each patrol.

I feel like this mod is the best version of an authentic submarine sim experience out there. Truly wonderful work done by all involved. A few creases here and there but it's a fantastic experiences nonetheless!

Feel free to send through any quips about self-promoting, Kaleun Marco

[Lonny007]

Wow they Did a Awesome Job with this Mod, also seems very stable too!

A few quick questions was following 3 British Steam Trawlers and there was absolutely no sound coming from them or any trace of sound from them on sonar. I would assume a Steam Trawler makes noise correct? Is this a bug not fixed yet?

I had my cannon manned but see no men on deck manning the cannon, should i see men manning the cannon with this Dark Waters Mod.

Thank You for this Awesome SH Mod, Very impressive!

[snak3gam3r!]

Originally Posted by DeathOrGlory

Is it possible to get medals and promotions for yourself in DW? I have sunk 30,0000+ tons in my current career and have completed multiple patrols yet I have not received any medals for myself (or my crew!).

Wondering if it's possible to get promoted to Kapitain Leutnant as well.

Yes, you can. However, yu definitely have to play really good and make a huge effort. So, it's not exactly an easy task.

[Lonny007]

Thank you for the speedy reply KaleunMarco, I thought the man deck gun button was all I needed to do to crew the deck gun, (been awhile since playing SH3 and SH4) I forgot to actual fill up the slots with men first.

Does this Mod have thermal layers like Vanilla SH4?

Very impressed with Dark Waters, this is how I always wanted SH3 to be. Also No CTD with Dark Waters Mod & also loads fast too compared with the latest SH3 Mods and the CTDs I experienced 1st day with all the latest SH3 Super Mods. I hate CTDs!

Dark Waters is a Definite Keeper Outstanding Mod!

[KaleunMarco]

Originally Posted by Lonny007

Does this Mod have thermal layers like Vanilla SH4?

Yes. Thermals are part of the SH4 design.