SH4 won't start after recent Win10 update

Sosondowah · 04-05-21, 03:38 PM

I am in the same situation, trying to launch the game normally nothing happens, and I receive this when I try to do it as an administrator.

https://ibb.co/XVsrdLP

It' doesn't work even with these two options off, so I guess I am no longer the master of my domain. I mean my desktop.

https://ibb.co/0GSBYdB

Maybe Microsoft has decided SH4 is a menace to society and it should be banned. And also, since most likely I am not able to take care of myself, they will take care of me and my cyber security against my will.

Honestly, I have been thinking for some time to become a Linux (Ubuntu) user, maybe it's a good time to make this step.

3catcircus · 04-05-21, 08:36 PM

Other things to check, especially if UAC is blocking things - check that you have admin rights in your profile. There have been instances where Win10 updates take away admin rights - and if you only have the one account, you'll have to boot into safe mode, go into the recovery environment, enable the built in admin account, and then give your own account privileges again.

Two things all users starting of with Win10 should do is establish a local account with admin privileges (or better, install using only a local account to begin with) and then install software that prevents windows from automatically updating itself.

Mechac · 10-24-21, 01:48 AM

Weird. Defender protested redbannery against launching the game, but applying LAA seems to worked it out.
Oh Microsoft....

l02turner · 06-05-22, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3catcircus

Other things to check, especially if UAC is blocking things - check that you have admin rights in your profile. There have been instances where Win10 updates take away admin rights - and if you only have the one account, you'll have to boot into safe mode, go into the recovery environment, enable the built in admin account, and then give your own account privileges again.

Two things all users starting of with Win10 should do is establish a local account with admin privileges (or better, install using only a local account to begin with) and then install software that prevents windows from automatically updating itself.

I agree that letting MS update itself whenever it wants is a bad idea, but how do we know if a Update is actually to help the User with Security or it's just MS doing housecleaning? I fear they hide all kinds of MS stuff behind the Security Comment and it has become more difficult (at least for me) to know when it's a valid threat. I don't know for the others but reading through all the boilerplate searching for the changes puts me to sleep! Then, when I wake up, I must recsll where I stopped!

Thanks for the suggestions -

Brightstar6 · 06-06-22, 04:35 PM

Put your sh4 in a separate hard drive..I placed mine in G: along with the JSGME install your mods and play the sin from the G: drive..

BadBat · 11-11-23, 11:31 AM

I just tried to get my SH4 installed again, and update 1.4 failed with the big red Windows message "this app has been blocked for your protection".

To get this to work, I ran "terminal" (command prompt with additional admin rights) and ran it from there.
Instructions to elevate Command Prompt to Terminal: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...1-5c14d5777c20

I am going to use my setup here, which uses the T drive for storing the patch. Yours will be different !

1. Copy the info on the location of your 1.4 patch: In file explorer, view the location of the patch. Right click on it and choose "copy as path"

2. Right click on the Windows button on the taskbar, select Terminal(Admin)

3. press CTRL+V
It will show: PS C:\Users\[yourusername]> "[whatever your directory is]\silent_hunter_4_1.4.exe"
In my case: PS C:\Users\BadBat> "T:\Win 10 installed\SH4 original DVD\silent_hunter_4_1.4.exe"

4.
i. BACKSPACE and remove "silent_hunter_4_1.4.exe"
ii. type another " in on the end
iii. use the arrow keys to move the cursor to the start of the line
iv. type "cd " - it should now read:

PS C:\Users\[yourusername]> cd "[whatever your directory is]"
PS C:\Users\BadBat> cd "T:\Win 10 installed\SH4 original DVD"

v. press enter, and it should change to:

PS [whatever your directory is]>
PS T:\Win 10 installed\SH4 original DVD\

vi. Now type in:

.\silent_hunter_4_1.4.exe

vii. press enter, and the patch installer should start

Aktungbby · 11-13-23, 04:08 PM

BadBat!

NZSharkbait · 11-08-21, 12:21 AM

Having just treated myself to a new PC (see below), I downloaded and attempted to install the SH 4 1.4 patch: blowed if I didn't encounter that same confounded "Administrator Blocked" nonsense. (Typical Windows, making life harder for ordinary users by adding extra garbage)

I went through the steps outlined on this page : using the "Run the app/file via Hidden Administrator Account", I was able to install the file and, having installed SH 4 from the disc, right now there are no problems starting/running the game through the shortcut on my desktop.

Still, to make doubly sure that Microsoft don't screw up the game in future, I'm going to uninstall and reinstall SH 4 & patch 1.4 into a discrete folder on a different partition.

propbeanie · 11-08-21, 12:29 PM

Which version of Silent Hunter 4 are you starting with? If you have the most common older disk version, that would v1.3, the 'original' was like v1.0.1 or similar, while the 'modern' version is of course, v1.5 - do not attempt to apply the SH4 1.4 patch on top of v1.5, of course. The others, it's fine. Just checking though...

1Patriotofmany · 11-15-21, 12:14 PM

This about sums it up. https://imgur.com/5WEqYoL

propbeanie · 11-15-21, 11:44 PM

Oh my... you left two here - I think I'll copy one of those for my wall hanging here... lol - That is exactly what happens when you have a Win10 machine that is not "qualified" for Windows 11, but tries to "update" to it anyway... not once, but three times now... at least it now shows in red text on the Update page "This computer does NOT qualify for Windows 11 at this time."

l02turner · 06-05-22, 05:00 AM

I am getting the same irritating Red Window message (Admin is Blocked by Admin - Contact the Admin) but I have gotten this msg after recent MS (Major) Updates before. I am using Win10 Home, with SH4 installed in a non sysem folder and have worked through fhe suggestions but this time nothing is working. For now, I am ashore until I find the problem.

Ahoy Mates -

04-05-21, 03:38 PM	#1
Sosondowah Watch Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Timișoara/România/Eastern Europe Posts: 28 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I am in the same situation, trying to launch the game normally nothing happens, and I receive this when I try to do it as an administrator. https://ibb.co/XVsrdLP It' doesn't work even with these two options off, so I guess I am no longer the master of my domain. I mean my desktop. https://ibb.co/0GSBYdB Maybe Microsoft has decided SH4 is a menace to society and it should be banned. And also, since most likely I am not able to take care of myself, they will take care of me and my cyber security against my will. Honestly, I have been thinking for some time to become a Linux (Ubuntu) user, maybe it's a good time to make this step. __________________ "The Dutch say we are brothers, and joined together with chains, but that lasts only as long as we have beavers; after that no attention is paid to us." Mohawk Leader Last edited by Sosondowah; 04-05-21 at 03:51 PM.

06-06-22, 04:35 PM	#5
Brightstar6 Seaman Join Date: Apr 2022 Posts: 37 Downloads: 197 Uploads: 0	Making it work Put your sh4 in a separate hard drive..I placed mine in G: along with the JSGME install your mods and play the sin from the G: drive..

11-11-23, 11:31 AM	#6
BadBat Bilge Rat Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 1 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Bypassing the "this app has been blocked for your protection" message I just tried to get my SH4 installed again, and update 1.4 failed with the big red Windows message "this app has been blocked for your protection". To get this to work, I ran "terminal" (command prompt with additional admin rights) and ran it from there. Instructions to elevate Command Prompt to Terminal: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...1-5c14d5777c20 I am going to use my setup here, which uses the T drive for storing the patch. Yours will be different ! 1. Copy the info on the location of your 1.4 patch: In file explorer, view the location of the patch. Right click on it and choose "copy as path" 2. Right click on the Windows button on the taskbar, select Terminal(Admin) 3. press CTRL+V It will show: PS C:\Users\[yourusername]> "[whatever your directory is]\silent_hunter_4_1.4.exe" In my case: PS C:\Users\BadBat> "T:\Win 10 installed\SH4 original DVD\silent_hunter_4_1.4.exe" 4. i. BACKSPACE and remove "silent_hunter_4_1.4.exe" ii. type another " in on the end iii. use the arrow keys to move the cursor to the start of the line iv. type "cd " - it should now read: PS C:\Users\[yourusername]> cd "[whatever your directory is]" PS C:\Users\BadBat> cd "T:\Win 10 installed\SH4 original DVD" v. press enter, and it should change to: PS [whatever your directory is]> PS T:\Win 10 installed\SH4 original DVD\ vi. Now type in: .\silent_hunter_4_1.4.exe vii. press enter, and the patch installer should start

11-13-23, 04:08 PM	#7
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,058 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard! BadBat! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

11-08-21, 12:21 AM	#8
NZSharkbait Seaman Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Noo Ziuland, near the Antarctic Posts: 33 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Having just treated myself to a new PC (see below), I downloaded and attempted to install the SH 4 1.4 patch: blowed if I didn't encounter that same confounded "Administrator Blocked" nonsense. (Typical Windows, making life harder for ordinary users by adding extra garbage) I went through the steps outlined on this page : using the "Run the app/file via Hidden Administrator Account", I was able to install the file and, having installed SH 4 from the disc, right now there are no problems starting/running the game through the shortcut on my desktop. Still, to make doubly sure that Microsoft don't screw up the game in future, I'm going to uninstall and reinstall SH 4 & patch 1.4 into a discrete folder on a different partition. __________________ Silent Victory: The U.S Submarine War Against Japan Kaigun: Imperial Japanese Navy webpage. MSI B560M PRO-VHD Wifi/ Intel i3-10105F 3.7GHz/ 32Mb RAM/ Nvidia GTX 1660 Super OS Win 10-64

04-05-21, 08:36 PM	#2
3catcircus Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 979 Downloads: 256 Uploads: 0	Other things to check, especially if UAC is blocking things - check that you have admin rights in your profile. There have been instances where Win10 updates take away admin rights - and if you only have the one account, you'll have to boot into safe mode, go into the recovery environment, enable the built in admin account, and then give your own account privileges again. Two things all users starting of with Win10 should do is establish a local account with admin privileges (or better, install using only a local account to begin with) and then install software that prevents windows from automatically updating itself.

10-24-21, 01:48 AM	#3
Mechac Nub Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 4 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Weird. Defender protested redbannery against launching the game, but applying LAA seems to worked it out. Oh Microsoft....

11-08-21, 12:29 PM	#9
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,109 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Which version of Silent Hunter 4 are you starting with? If you have the most common older disk version, that would v1.3, the 'original' was like v1.0.1 or similar, while the 'modern' version is of course, v1.5 - do not attempt to apply the SH4 1.4 patch on top of v1.5, of course. The others, it's fine. Just checking though... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

11-15-21, 12:14 PM	#10
1Patriotofmany Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 578 Downloads: 117 Uploads: 0	This about sums it up. https://imgur.com/5WEqYoL

11-15-21, 11:44 PM	#11
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,109 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Oh my... you left two here - I think I'll copy one of those for my wall hanging here... lol - That is exactly what happens when you have a Win10 machine that is not "qualified" for Windows 11, but tries to "update" to it anyway... not once, but three times now... at least it now shows in red text on the Update page "This computer does NOT qualify for Windows 11 at this time." __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

06-05-22, 05:00 AM	#12
l02turner Soundman Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Va Posts: 143 Downloads: 167 Uploads: 0	SH4 won't Start after Win10 Update I am getting the same irritating Red Window message (Admin is Blocked by Admin - Contact the Admin) but I have gotten this msg after recent MS (Major) Updates before. I am using Win10 Home, with SH4 installed in a non sysem folder and have worked through fhe suggestions but this time nothing is working. For now, I am ashore until I find the problem. Ahoy Mates -