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Old 03-28-21, 04:39 PM   #1
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Isn't it more than the quantity of how many ships, subs, bombeplane and regular troops a country have ?

Shouldn't things like technologies be part of it.

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Old 03-28-21, 06:18 PM   #2
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Isn't it more than the quantity of how many ships, subs, bombeplane and regular troops a country have ?

Shouldn't things like technologies be part of it.

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I said it often already: technological quality can copensate for numericla inferiorit yonly to a certain degree - and not further.

Also a technologicla platform still cannot be in severla places simultaneously.

It also does not have a cat's nine lives. If you only have limited numbers of platfoms, every saingle loss weighs the heavier, is more difficult to replace, and increases the risks for the so far surviving platforms.

BTW, i wold not tak eit for granted anynore that the Chinese militarey is technologically so inferior as many still seem ti imply. That was twenty years ago. Today they drive many technological innovations instead of just stealing and robbing them from others. In some high tech fields they dominate, I think. Due to the US pressure and sanctions and the Huawei row launched by the US, they have multiplied their efforts to become independent from Western and US chip production.
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Taiwan’s Silicon Shield Collides with its Silicon Lance

Hi and welcome to this special open to all February 12, 2021 episode of Peter Lee’s China Threat Report.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/open-to-all-with-47482074
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Dont bet that it stays that way, Rockstar. The stories told in your link are the reason why Xi on the last peoples cingress made gaining autarky in their semiconductor production an absolute top one goal of his regime.



Also, all semiconductor production sites in Taiwan are inside range of Chinas missile pool. And tbey have more of these than Taiwan has defences, or the US, to take all incoming vampyres out.



If you can attack with sufficient numbers of missiles, every defence gets flooded and overwhelmed.
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Yes, it seems a majority of the world's chip production is in Taiwan. According to that article not only is China spending incredibly large sums ramping up its own lower quality chip manufacturing. Even the U.S. is moving chip manufacturing inside our own borders, as a matter of fact it mentions Texas. I think we're doing it primarily for the reason Taiwan is near a hostile neighbor. If COVID has taught us anything it's that when the feces hits the rotating oscillator a nation needs to be able to produce the tools necessary to protect itself.


Secondly China doesn't have much experience producing quality chips. Everyone else, Taiwan, Japan, U.S., South Korea, E.U. does. That makes a great selling point when you start looking for a new EV to drive around in. Taiwan chip manufactures can't handle it all there needs to be other facilities opened to keep up with the increasing global demand. Might take the heat off Taiwan making them not all that important to China.

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Old 03-29-21, 01:59 AM   #6
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According to that article not only is China spending incredibly large sums ramping up its own lower quality chip manufacturing. [...]
Secondly China doesn't have much experience producing quality chips.
When you look at time spent and needed China is indeed "inferior", it only needed ten years to become almost equal with western products.
Their chips are not of lower quality, some are even better and also cheaper when it comes to Intel i7 level comparisons.
https://versus.com/en/huawei-kirin-9...-core-i7-8650u

Or compare a new Huawei to Apple mobiles, from speed to battery life. They are no far behind. Don't bother whether the basic tech has been copied or stolen, thing is the outcome here.
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Huawei's 5G kits are world leading.

My old Huawei smartphone (now used as a Navi exclusively on my ebike) beats the more expensive Samsung phones that since then went through my hands (for my Mum, and myself) by clear margins.

Fenix is a company that has beaten up the price market for LED torchlights. Superb manuifacturing quality, for prices that the multiple timers more expensive US competition and European competition could not long compete with, and had to give ground to. Now all such lights are much cheap, the general price niveau is down.

( I complain about the advertizing and business practices of Chinese traders on Wetsenr platrofmres, however. Often you get straightly lied to your face, information on terms and conditions and locatiosn from which the shipping actually starts, are deceived and kept hidden behind misleading formulations. But Chinese business practices are something Chinese zraders have earned a bad reptuation for in Asia since many centuries already. Be on your guard all the time, and never take a weak position towards their offers, better say No from early on. Personally I have drawn consequences and do not order form anything related to Chinese companies anymore. Too many smelly experiences. Lying is as common as copyright infringement and stealing intellectual property. Thats not just clichées or racist lies - thats simply empirical fact.)
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