Sub Turn Radius

propbeanie · 03-24-21, 06:37 PM

You can get some relief in the SubName.sim file, but an alteration in one area of the sim, affects nearly all other areas. Each of the "main" entries in the sim file has a "Parent Node" that links to the dat file for the SubName. You would mostly be working in the , unit_Submarine section of the SubName.sim file, editing sections that are named appropriately, but the figures are not associated with anything resembling real life, so tread carefully. The use of Silent 3Ditor (S3D) is recommended, unless you're a brainiac that knows hex editing...

One of the main differences between the real subs and game's subs (besides there only being two engines and two motors) is that the real sub could order ahead full on the port engine, and reverse 1/3 on the starboard (or whatever settings they wanted), which helped them turn much tighter.

Torpex77 · 03-24-21, 09:08 PM

Thanks propbeanie!!

I'll give it wack this weekend.

KaleunMarco · 03-25-21, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Torpex77

Thanks propbeanie!!

I'll give it wack this weekend.

be careful.

when you adjust the rudder and plane effects in the dotSIM file, it changes all of the ship dynamics and not just turning radius.
be prepared to be frustrated by the fact that the application cannot get close to matching reality.
good luck.

Torpex77 · 03-25-21, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

be careful.

when you adjust the rudder and plane effects in the dotSIM file, it changes all of the ship dynamics and not just turning radius.
be prepared to be frustrated by the fact that the application cannot get close to matching reality.
good luck.

Which does make sense, as they would. Do you know if anyone specifically tried to make the subs turn a little better? Only asking because I dont want to "battle a sunken ship"

KaleunMarco · 03-25-21, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Torpex77

Which does make sense, as they would. Do you know if anyone specifically tried to make the subs turn a little better? Only asking because I dont want to "battle a sunken ship"

i do not know anyone who has attempted what you are attempting.

i have tried to vary the drag values but tuning it properly takes more patience than i have.
if the drag is too high, it takes forever to turn or to dive/surface.
if the drag is too low, the boat acts like a cork and takes forever to slow/stop.
this does not include the process of changing values, launching, starting a mission, testing the boat, exiting and starting all over again.
as i said before, good luck. if you figure it out you are a better man than i am, Gunga Din.

propbeanie · 03-26-21, 02:02 AM

You could compare Stock figures, to RFB, to TMO, and get an idea of the differences.

Macgregor the Hammer · 03-26-21, 10:11 AM

On this same topic, I've wondered if the dive planes actually work or is diving and surfacing just another variable in the equation. There's no way to control them, at least that I've found. Dive fast, flood negative; surface fast, emergency blow.

Am I wrong in this assumption?

03-24-21, 06:37 PM	#1
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,100 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	You can get some relief in the SubName.sim file, but an alteration in one area of the sim, affects nearly all other areas. Each of the "main" entries in the sim file has a "Parent Node" that links to the dat file for the SubName. You would mostly be working in the , unit_Submarine section of the SubName.sim file, editing sections that are named appropriately, but the figures are not associated with anything resembling real life, so tread carefully. The use of Silent 3Ditor (S3D) is recommended, unless you're a brainiac that knows hex editing... One of the main differences between the real subs and game's subs (besides there only being two engines and two motors) is that the real sub could order ahead full on the port engine, and reverse 1/3 on the starboard (or whatever settings they wanted), which helped them turn much tighter. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna Last edited by propbeanie; 03-24-21 at 07:05 PM. Reason: broken linkie... hmmm

03-24-21, 09:08 PM	#2
Torpex77 Helmsman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Pennsylvania-Endless Moutains Posts: 106 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 0	Turn Radius Thanks propbeanie!! I'll give it wack this weekend. __________________ A Submarine Simulation should "simulate" Historical Reality as best as possible! No Excuse, because whatsoever your trying to simulate, is documented..somewhere!

03-26-21, 02:02 AM	#6
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,100 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	You could compare Stock figures, to RFB, to TMO, and get an idea of the differences. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

03-26-21, 10:11 AM	#7
Macgregor the Hammer Chief Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Minnesota Posts: 325 Downloads: 535 Uploads: 1	On this same topic, I've wondered if the dive planes actually work or is diving and surfacing just another variable in the equation. There's no way to control them, at least that I've found. Dive fast, flood negative; surface fast, emergency blow. Am I wrong in this assumption? __________________ "It's impossible to make anything fool proof....Fools are too ingenious!"