[TEC] Radar bug in TMO

[propbeanie]

What he said was "Run this dude: [https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dow...ile&id=4630]SH Validator from TDW[/url], choose the folder where your desired install to check is, and the applet will ask you if you want it to update your Windows Registry to point to that game install. Tell it "yes", and that will alter the Registry to not look in the original install folder, but rather at the modded TMO folder. If you did a completely "fresh" install initially, then you won't get that prompt.

As to the radar on the older boats, what we found in FotRSU was that the mast for the radar has to match the conn, and has to match the radar. Some of our radars were pointing at "normal" SJ, and had to be pointed at "Supported SJ", while one of the conns had to have its mount points moved for it to accept the mast...

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

What he said was "Run this dude: [https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dow...ile&id=4630]SH Validator from TDW[/url], choose the folder where your desired install to check is, and the applet will ask you if you want it to update your Windows Registry to point to that game install. Tell it "yes", and that will alter the Registry to not look in the original install folder, but rather at the modded TMO folder. If you did a completely "fresh" install initially, then you won't get that prompt.

As to the radar on the older boats, what we found in FotRSU was that the mast for the radar has to match the conn, and has to match the radar. Some of our radars were pointing at "normal" SJ, and had to be pointed at "Supported SJ", while one of the conns had to have its mount points moved for it to accept the mast...

In the data posted below, is the SJ pointing to a "supported" SJ?

Thanks for the clarification, makes sense to me now, mostly. Perhaps I should do a new install first or of SH 4 or ? Just save my mods of course.

[Nicolas]

This bug had me stopping playing sh4 sevreal times now when i finally get the itch to play a career, i tried to fix it but i couldn't do it. I am waiting for a new version of fotrs to see if i can play a career normally. Last time the AI was too weak, in tmo they were very good, maybe too much.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Nicolas

This bug had me stopping playing sh4 sevreal times now when i finally get the itch to play a career, i tried to fix it but i couldn't do it. I am waiting for a new version of fotrs to see if i can play a career normally. Last time the AI was too weak, in tmo they were very good, maybe too much.

It's an old TMO bug( I guess Ducimus stopped working on TMO before could resolve it) I forgotten because always played RSRD with it and RSRD corrected it apparently. I believe FOTRS has as well.

[Nicolas]

So i started a new playtrhough with tmo and this time RSRD campaign, the error happened again, and lost the gun and all upgrades, so i prevent now the bug happening by disabling the conning tower upgrade like this:

Go to Silent Hunter 4 TMO\Data\Submarine\NSS_(your sub)\yoursub.upc

The upc conning tower upgrade section is this:

[UserPlayerUnit 1.UnitPartSlot 1]
ID=GatoConningSlot
NameDisplayable=Conning Tower Mount
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes=GatoConningTower
IDLinkUnitPartIntervalDefault1= NULL, 1960-06-25, GatoConningEarlyWar ;Only UnitParts of this type could be placed here
;IDLinkUnitPartIntervalDefault2= 1942-06-26, 1943-01-25, GatoConningMedWar ; <------ commented
;IDLinkUnitPartIntervalDefault3= 1943-01-26, 1944-01-25, GatoConningLateWar ; <------ commented
;IDLinkUnitPartIntervalDefault4= 1944-01-26, NULL, GatoConningElite ; <------ commented
ExternalNodeName3D= Z01


So now the upgrade does not take place problem is this requires a new career unless:
you go to your save folder and edit ActiveUserPlayerUnits.upc

There is a section identical to the other upc one, you need to comment out the towers sections and it worked for me i reloaded a save just beore docking and this time i didn't get the upgrade, problem is you never will get conning tower upgrades like this.

[Nicolas]

So if you replace the early conning tower to another in the upc file, in that section in the previous post you can get a start of the war 'late' conning tower at the start not realistic but if unable to get conning tower upgrades this is better than going with an early one all the time.


I tested this with a new career.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Nicolas

So i started a new playtrhough with tmo and this time RSRD campaign, the error happened again, and lost the gun and all upgrades, so i prevent now the bug happening by disabling the conning tower upgrade like this:

Go to Silent Hunter 4 TMO\Data\Submarine\NSS_(your sub)\yoursub.upc

The upc conning tower upgrade section is this:

[UserPlayerUnit 1.UnitPartSlot 1]
ID=GatoConningSlot
NameDisplayable=Conning Tower Mount
Type=NULL
AcceptedTypes=GatoConningTower
IDLinkUnitPartIntervalDefault1= NULL, 1960-06-25, GatoConningEarlyWar ;Only UnitParts of this type could be placed here
;IDLinkUnitPartIntervalDefault2= 1942-06-26, 1943-01-25, GatoConningMedWar ; <------ commented
;IDLinkUnitPartIntervalDefault3= 1943-01-26, 1944-01-25, GatoConningLateWar ; <------ commented
;IDLinkUnitPartIntervalDefault4= 1944-01-26, NULL, GatoConningElite ; <------ commented
ExternalNodeName3D= Z01


So now the upgrade does not take place problem is this requires a new career unless:
you go to your save folder and edit ActiveUserPlayerUnits.upc

There is a section identical to the other upc one, you need to comment out the towers sections and it worked for me i reloaded a save just beore docking and this time i didn't get the upgrade, problem is you never will get conning tower upgrades like this.

Thank you for this information