HA HA, got this bloddy game at last!!

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Well I e-mail BlackBean and asked about when the extra scenarios will be posted on the BlackBean website so the people who already have the BF or Strategy First version of DW can play them. I also did say I wasn't going to buy an extra copy just to get the scenarios.

Either he didn't understand my e-mail or they are hoping we will buy another copy as his answer was that if they put the scenarios up on the BlackBean website why would people want to purchase a copy. I'll post his e-mail later.

Very bad attitude from Black Bean.
We are not second class customers.
We supported the game from the first day it came out, by buying the battlefront release or the retail sf release.
They really are out of their minds if they think we will double dip just to have a few extra scenarios.

I was thinking those who don't have a copy will buy it in the store as they wouldn't be able to play the scenarios unless they have DW. Maybe BB are worried that people will get a warez copy of DW.

Lets be realistic here, if SCS were worried about warez copies of DW they would have included any kind of copy protection since the battlefront release.
The people who wanted this game have already bought it.
I think the bottom line is that BB thinks we will double dip but that is just preposterous.
At this moment I really wish someone who has bought the european release will be generous enough to share with the community the extra scenarios and missions.
Its not as if the license forbids the sharing of the scenarios and/or missions.
This is just the case of another greedy publisher.

[Nexus7]

Originally Posted by Kurushio

I think comparing the availability of Dangerous Waters in Kosovo to Britain is unfair. I mean, you can even buy a T-72 (low mileage, full service history, road tax) in Kosovo...maybe even a suitcase nuke. By the way...we are talking about ORIGINAL copies here, right?

What? Do you have doubts? rofl

On a more serious note... it was kind of a pleasure to see some copies of DW in the proximity of games like CallOfDuty2 and some other great games

[Ori_b]

Since those scenarios made by bill for some kind of payment, it wouldnt be fair just giving them away. The least we can do is wait for his permission.
I dont think they intend to make all of you buy another copy, i think its more for those with a light finger on the IMULE, you cant blame them for it. I mean, i was really surprised when i searched all the booklets and boxes and didnt find any kind of CD key.

BTW, All those extra missions weigh less then 10MB and most of it is RSR.

[Onkel Neal]

I have a contact at BB, I'll e-mail them. Essentially, why not allow folks have these scenarios, those who have paved the way for DW success by purchasing the game when it first came out? They can only play the scenarios on the DW game... may as well spread a little goodwill.

Neal

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

I have a contact at BB, I'll e-mail them. Essentially, why not allow folks have these scenarios, those who have paved the way for DW success by purchasing the game when it first came out? They can only play the scenarios on the DW game... may as well spread a little goodwill.

Neal

Hear, hear the voice of reason.
You're dead-on Neal, the scenarios/missions are absolutely useless without DW (any version, battlefront, strategy first, steam).
I'm thinking that since all the versions of DW are essentialy the same, BB doesn't want to loose legitimate sales to people that would buy the american retail release and or the steam release and then play BB extra scenarios.
Piracy doesn't even come into play here. Its all about keeping your market share.
Unfortunately we early customers are between the hammer and the anvil.

[LuftWolf]

Originally Posted by Ori_b

Since those scenarios made by bill for some kind of payment, it wouldnt be fair just giving them away. The least we can do is wait for his permission.
I dont think they intend to make all of you buy another copy, i think its more for those with a light finger on the IMULE, you cant blame them for it. I mean, i was really surprised when i searched all the booklets and boxes and didnt find any kind of CD key.

BTW, All those extra missions weigh less then 10MB and most of it is RSR.

The reason those missions should be publicly available is because StrategyFirst, Steam, and BlackBean would not be publishing this game for you to buy now, if WE did not buy this game from Battlefront when it was in 1.0, a late Beta version of the game (this is the truth).

We have waited for 3 patches, put MUCH personal effort into promoting this game, so any kind of extra materials are fine to keep as promotional material for target audiences, but game files are a different matter.

Cheers,
David

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by LuftWolf

We have waited for 3 patches, put MUCH personal effort into promoting this game, so any kind of extra materials are fine to keep as promotional material for target audiences, but game files are a different matter.

Precisely. I'm not asking that they give me the nice Nautilus video that came with it or the discounted tickets to that submarine museum. I always thought we were free, even encouraged to share scenarios. :hmm:

[XabbaRus]

I know I said I would do it earlier but here is the reply I got from BlackBean

Dear Benedict,
I thank you for your interest for the game and our company, I’ve read with attention your email and you have reason, but just let me explain.

About extra contents I can say they are present in the European version: we have created an extra cd with new missions, scenarios and campaigns and also extra video such as exclusive interviews a full documentary about submarine.
The game has been released all over Europe not at the same time, but in different periods depending on countries, so we can’t lost this opportunity: try to imagine there is the possibility to buy a new edition of Dangerous Waters, but all new contents are already available on-line… nobody will buy the game!

We have intention to release the extra contents, but try to imagine, we are a company, we need to sell product… if you really want to have them a solution could be buy the new edition, or I’m sorry but you have to wait “technical time” in order to not make unhappy people that are waiting or re-bought the game.

Cheers,
Dave

[Nexus7]

:: watering mouth ::

What nationality are Blackbean??! Because whoever wrote that email has either English as a second language or never graduated kindergarten.

[XabbaRus]

Italian I think.

Wasn't easy to read the first time.

[LoBlo]

BlackBeans logic is kindof flawed there in that email. No one that has already bought a copy of the game and has already been playing it is going to shell out another $40 just for some missions... thinking that not sharing new scenarios will be an impetus for sells is kindof ....

[goldorak]

Well, to their credit they said that they will release the extra content (meaning only the extra missions i suppose).
Of course they didn't specify the timetable, so we might be waiting some years.

You know what? I think I'll pass. SH4 is coming along soon...

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Kurushio

You know what? I think I'll pass. SH4 is coming along soon...