Your Ideal Doomsday Survival Situation/Prepper Thread

[Skybird]

^ Blödsinn.

My grandparents on my father'S side, their family and villagers had to flee from the Russians and Czechs at the end of WWII, they were Sudeten. I know for certain that on several occasions they had to barter with their women'S jewelry, rings, and silver coins with farmers to get something to eat (because the Reichmark did not buy anything anymore...), and to bribe policemen or guards or officials. They got ripped off, of course. But they made it through, though with luck, a Russian patrol once caught them, but the leader was a man with a heart and did not want to murder babies and kids, so let them go.If thery would niot have had somethign of value to barter with, I would not sit here and type this in, because I would have never gotten born.

And if it is an ounce of silver for tweo eggs and half a loaf of bread. Bartering needs somehing you can barter with.

As long as no meteor hits the earth, near future crisis will always have those who have something, and those who have nothing, or at least far less. The bartering value of precious metals and jewelry will drop zo zero only when nobody sees any future anymore when the light will return to the world.

And if this still does not make you think twice about what you just said, then explain why gold and silver and jewelry have maintained their value storage function and are being held in high esteem by humans not since just centuries, but since MILLENIA. Is there any stock paper or paper currency that can claim the same?

The next crisis we face, will be the endgame of the financial crisis that runs since the 70s, and the showdown for the paper money system, and a resulting economic crisis. The latter I think could last for YEARS. And states will try to plunder people off their private property as best as they can, will steal where they know something of value is there that can be stolen. You said gold and central bank in on sentence, implying that it needs central banks to trade with precious metals. Thats Blödsinn, too. Central banks were only founded to replace gold - that one did not have enough of anymore - with in principle worthless paper "money"! When central banks and paper money are long since in ruins, gold will still be held in high esteem. Promised. So valuable that states will try to prohibit private ownership, and confiscate (=plunder) it from private people.

That worthless and useless gold is. So worthless that everbyody of sane mind wants it.

Its a safety to keep and conserve bartering power you have accumulated and saved, do not want to spend it right now to have reserves for the future. Though a safety it only is if the state does not know you own it. thjats why you should buy and hold it anonymously, andnthat si why the mwerciells redecue the ammount of gold allowed to be bought anonymously. The state wants to know where he can plunder in the future, you see.

Originally Posted by ET2SN

No one in their right mind is going to trade food and fire wood for gold and silver. You can't burn them or eat them, so what's the point?

If I have enough firewood and food supplies, I possibly am willing to take your bars and coins if they are of real gold and silver, and give you wood and some eggs for it. Because i have it and you seem to need it. Come better times again, I will be rich, and you will be poor. What you bartered to get, will have been consumed up and your hands are empty, but I will go and have shopping tours again, and yes: plural.

[em2nought]

Silver is damned heavy. Having a little pirate chest full of it is kinda fun though. Too poor to do that with gold.

[Onkel Neal]

In full prep mode starting now. Arctic blast coming down into South Texas, temps expected to below freezing for 48 consecutive hours!

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

In full prep mode starting now. Arctic blast coming down into South Texas, temps expected to below freezing for 48 consecutive hours!

Good job you don't live where I do in 'Geordieland' then

50 degrees, Texans turn the central heating on...
Geordies plant their gardens

40 degrees, Texans shiver uncontrollably...
Geordies Sunbathe

30 degrees, Texans cars will not start....
Geordies drive with their windows down

20 degrees, Texans wear coats, gloves and wooly hats...
Geordies throw on a t-shirt(Girls start wearing mini-skirts)

10 degrees, Texans begin to evacuate...
Geordies go swimming in the North Sea

Zero degrees, Texan landlords turn up the heat...
Geordies have the last barbecue before it gets cold

Minus 10 degrees, Texans cease to exist...
Geordies throw on a lightweight jacket

Minus 80 degrees, Polar bears start to wonder if its worth it...
Geordie boy scouts start wearing long trousers

Minus 100 degrees, Santa Claus abandons the North Pole...
Geordies put on their long johns

Minus 173 degrees, alcohol freezes...
Geordies become frustrated as the pubs are shut

Minus 297 degrees, Microbiological life begins to disappear...
The cows on the Town Moor complain that the vets have cold hands

Minus 460 degrees, All atomic motion stops...
Geordies start to stamp their feet and blow on their hands

Minus 500 degrees, Hell freezes over....
Trump wins the election after a recount

[Onkel Neal]

Power has been out since 02:30, outside temp is -8.3C / 17F

Temp in the house got down to 8C/48F before I woke up and hooked up the gennie. Generator has been powering the furnace and the PC, so it's 18C/66F now. I can hang on for 4 days.

[Mr Quatro]

Man that's cold ... I don't think I've been below 10 degrees back in 2012, but this storm is a huge storm.

Surprised more people aren't trapped in it

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...BingNews&pfr=1

As the plains continue to grapple with the Arctic chill, the National Weather Prediction Center said numerous new record lows were established Monday, including minus 6 in Oklahoma City and 5 degrees in Dallas.

[ET2SN]

When I was growing up in northern Maine, I remember going out to play when it was -50F. In order to get that cold, there couldn't be any kind of wind or breeze.

Of course, that was before I moved to Iowa.
Minus 10 and a "slight" 30 MPH breeze is something to behold- but not for long.

Still, the coldest I ever felt was in Pusan/Busan Korea in the winter. That was flat-out nasty.

[Mr Quatro]

Galveston, Texas this morning (just got it off of FB)

[ET2SN]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Power has been out since 02:30, outside temp is -8.3C / 17F

Temp in the house got down to 8C/48F before I woke up and hooked up the gennie. Generator has been powering the furnace and the PC, so it's 18C/66F now. I can hang on for 4 days.

Something I just remembered , if its significantly below freezing and that's REALLY novel to your location, as long as your have water pressure in the pipes its best to slightly crack open one or two faucets. Not a drip, more like a minimal stream of water. You want to do this for both hot and cold water.
The reason being, you want to maintain a minimal flow of water in your pipes if there's a chance your pipes could freeze. This is really important on the inlet side of your water system (this is why you also want to crack a hot water tap, even if you have power).

It could be worse, at least the Gators are hibernating.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by ET2SN

Something I just remembered , if its significantly below freezing and that's REALLY novel to your location, as long as your have water pressure in the pipes its best to slightly crack open one or two faucets. Not a drip, more like a minimal stream of water. You want to do this for both hot and cold water.
The reason being, you want to maintain a minimal flow of water in your pipes if there's a chance your pipes could freeze. This is really important on the inlet side of your water system (this is why you also want to crack a hot water tap, even if you have power).

It could be worse, at least the Gators are hibernating.

Still no power, water company just sent alert, they are shutting down the water supply. Internet down too, just my mobile. What's worse: more icy weather rules out driving, expected to continue through friday

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Power has been out since 02:30, outside temp is -8.3C / 17F

Temp in the house got down to 8C/48F before I woke up and hooked up the gennie. Generator has been powering the furnace and the PC, so it's 18C/66F now. I can hang on for 4 days.

No need to die on day 5 with cold feet. You want one of these:

[August]

My Texan cousins report mostly burst pipes. They knew about cracking the faucets but that didn't help. Problem is their houses just aren't set up for those temps. I told them they should get a generator. A freeze might be a once in a lifetime event but if they loose power to their ACs in the summer they might easily burst into flame.