Prediction: What will the USA look like in 20 years ?

[Bubblehead1980]

As we well know, United States is a complete and total cluster at the moment, and has been for a long time. Believe we are descending into a 1984-esque dystopia? Believe things about to progress rapidly into a better society ? , or stay somewhat the same with better technology? Interested in others predictions.

Last couple of semesters I have taught a class as an adjunct and require a paper as part of my course discussing this very topic. Naturally, require some sources i.e. evidence to support such predictions/ Just curious as to the views of the diverse group of people here.

[bstanko6]

Here is what it will look like

[Skybird]

The whole Western sphere, as a culture and civilization, is imploding, collapsing. Rivalling powers like China and Islam just just need to wait, and later pick up the remains comfortably, without much of a fight. Specifically the American fate: it will go down like the British Empire. And the denial of that reality will continue to be the narrative for as long. Extremist Christian sects will regionally establish fascism-like regimes, so will the rich and powerful in an attempt to stick to power for a bit longer. The skin of the old society and culture and its value system will break open, like with insects undergoing their metamorphosis, and the new rules will break out of it. But new must not mean better. I would not want to live in a Sineo-controlled nor Muslim regulated world. Age is on my side there. My timing to exist, may priove to have been perfect: after the big wars, in an era of relative peace and wealth and self-reflection, before the following deep darkness. I consider myself to be very, very lucky. I witnessed maybe the climaxing of the West. The price is to also be aware and see the beginning of its fall too doom. What goes up, must come down. Everythign runs in cycles. In a millenia or two, maybe the new Islamic darkenss will be brought tio an end again. Or maybe man will not survive long enough, considering how determined we make sure to send this world to hell. The ecological destruction maybe will betray early the new rulers for their prey and fortune.

"For there to be betrayal, there would have to have been trust first. Happy Hunger Games! And may the odds be ever in your favour!." - The Hunger Games.

[Sonicfire1981]

Originally Posted by bstanko6

Here is what it will look like
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You have issues, man...

On topic. You could not have picked a time where this was more difficult to predict, with the possible exception of the cuban crisis and a couple others. I of course don't believe the future in 2040 will look like the future of the 80ies. The US is in a difficult position, with big oil on decline and a lot of people not stomaching that so well. A key driver for innovation would be a sharp rise in energy pricing (because innovation never happens unless it has to). So a train of thought would be to think of the economic effect when US is left behind and still relies on fossiles when they get scarcer and scarcer.
I also hate to bring up this parallel, but you may want to take a look at the weimar republic, which was a naive democracy with little safety features against people who wanted to rise to absolute power. Could this happen to a US society? dividing it into "we" and "them", ~burning~ media that is not pleasant to ones cause, using peasants with torches to scare opposition, repeating lies in public until it practically becomes truth. Making the ordinary man believe that everything in ones power is done to improve his situation.

I'm sorry for this unordered list, which wasn't my intention as I started writing. but, for an academic, this "could this happen in the US" might be an interesting thesis.

[bstanko6]

I think you guys gave up on life!

I think it’s cute you’re writing down your ideas, poetry, Marxist lies. But we saw what happened to Marxist ideas… They fail.

The US rose up against a gigantic superpower Britain, and did just well. It even fought 2 world wars, it came out better for it. It can stand the test of time to Muslim extremists, and Communist China. I’m not worried about countries that can’t even provide power to its people on a daily basis. Much less a state like California trying to run this country as it is right now when they can’t even do the same thing.

Now I’m just a simple man, I can’t write poetic Marxism like you guys can, but I know what true America looks like. I live here and I enjoyed every day. I fought for it and currently protect it.

What I do know is, the people here will not put up with this Biden crap for long.

They will not allow this to happen much longer. The time is turbulent and the violence is increasing evermore every day. Something will break, and the machine will slow, but we will get up and we will be running again.

In the words of Calvin Candy from Django unchained “There have been a lot of lies told around this table, but that one you can believe!”

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by bstanko6

Here is what it will look like

LMAO

[Sonicfire1981]

Originally Posted by bstanko6

I think it’s cute you’re writing down your ideas, poetry, Marxist lies. But we saw what happened to Marxist ideas… They fail.

Fun fact: more democracies have failed than marxistic.... uhm. societies.

Now I’m just a simple man,

You're absolutely entitled to be. the consequence is: not every question is for you.

What I do know is, the people here will not put up with this Biden crap for long.

It's not about that.

In the words of Calvin Candy from Django unchained “There have been a lot of lies told around this table, but that one you can believe!”

You must be smart. you can quote... things.

[Buddahaid]

I'll be 84 if I'm still kicking and probably won't care as long as my meals are on time! Oh, and my nurse is a cute brunette....

[bstanko6]

Sonic...

You are right, more democracies have failed.

But all the other government types have been around because of use of force, military occupation, and fear. You can keep that ****.

[Platapus]

In 30 years I will be dead. I just hope my country keeps together until that happens.



No way to predict what will happen in the next 30 years, we don't know what will happen this year.

[Rockstar]

Barring some global catastrophe the biggest and most obvious change will be the population. As the number of people increase so to will be a need for greater control of communications outlets and the narrative for the sake of maintaining order. One noticeable thing I see now and may presumably only get worse is how the internet and the instant access to information has dragged children into the realm of identity politics, and the party rhetoric. Funny thing is I find absolutely no difference between how a 14 year old and some of the older fellas communicate. Its a battle of egos on the school play ground. Thankfully though there are a few real thinkers which take the time to talk some sense but unfortunately they are becoming harder and harder to find.



Wanted to add too that its not all doom and gloom or 1984 social control and fear. I think there's going to be some pretty kewl advances in science, space exploration, energy, medicine, preserving our enviroment. All of which will greatly benefit the United States and humanity. I'm really happy about that and looking forward to it. 20 years from now I'll be 79, hopefully still having a good time, able go out into the wild and spark one up on occasion while marveling at all the new stuff

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by bstanko6

Here is what it will look like

Isn't this the murderer from "The silence of the lambs"?

[mapuc]

I think the most important question would be:

Will there still be a Subsim forum 20 years from now ?

Markus

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Barring some global catastrophe the biggest and most obvious change will be the population. As the number of people increase so to will be a need for greater control of communications outlets and the narrative for the sake of maintaining order. One noticeable thing I see now and may presumably only get worse is how the internet and the instant access to information has dragged children into the realm of identity politics, and the party rhetoric. Funny thing is I find absolutely no difference between how a 14 year old and some of the older fellas communicate. Its a battle of egos on the school play ground. Thankfully though there are a few real thinkers which take the time to talk some sense but unfortunately they are becoming harder and harder to find.



Wanted to add too that its not all doom and gloom or 1984 social control and fear. I think there's going to be some pretty kewl advances in science, space exploration, energy, medicine, preserving our enviroment. All of which will greatly benefit the United States and humanity. I'm really happy about that and looking forward to it. 20 years from now I'll be 79, hopefully still having a good time, able go out into the wild and spark one up on occasion while marveling at all the new stuff

I've been a lot of SciFi short stories from post WW2 on through the seventies, and outside of some dated domestic norms, the same political worries and fears of today are brought up again and again.

[Sean C]

I think there will be a lot of people running around like their hair is on fire claiming that the end is near and evil is among us. Meanwhile most people will just want to collect a paycheck and be left alone.



IOW, more of the same.