Light House question

Fifi · 01-31-21, 09:17 AM

Hi,

Quick question: do you know what file exactly makes the lights on or off on light houses?

Thanks in advance

blackswan40 · 01-31-21, 09:29 AM

Hi Fifi ive flaged your post to Blueduck of the LSH2020 Team

Fifi · 01-31-21, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by blackswan40

Hi Fifi ive flaged your post to Blueduck of the LSH2020 Team

Thank you very much Blackswan

Jeff-Groves · 01-31-21, 01:05 PM

Look in Harbor_kit.dat

Generic_light_hoouse

You'll find a ParticleGenerator

Fifi · 01-31-21, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Look in Harbor_kit.dat

Generic_light_hoouse

You'll find a ParticleGenerator

Thanks Jeff, i will

My goal was to deactivate French lighthouses lights from 1941 to end of war, as all French lighthouses were black out by Germans

Jeff-Groves · 01-31-21, 02:00 PM

That could be done.
You would need to change the light houses to a different file then use eqp.cfg to control when the ParticleGenerator is used.

THEN search all location dats for Light_hoouse so you can change the Placement Node information.

SweetScape 010 can do that in seconds instead of doing a manual search.

In stock SH3....
There are 95 occurrences in 35 files out of 97 files searched.
Granted not all of those will be French areas.

010 can also do a mass replacement of ID numbers/names once you build the new files.

Fifi · 01-31-21, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

That could be done.
You would need to change the light houses to a different file then use eqp.cfg to control when the ParticleGenerator is used.

THEN search all location dats for Light_hoouse so you can change the Placement Node information.

SweetScape 010 can do that in seconds instead of doing a manual search.

In stock SH3....
There are 95 occurrences in 35 files out of 97 files searched.
Granted not all of those will be French areas.

010 can also do a mass replacement of ID numbers/names once you build the new files.

Other idea would be to use the Commander Date feature, as Rowi did it in Ccom...
At a certain date in commander date folder, i put harbor kit dat (where the lighthoose is), with all particules set to zero, so the generic lighthouse doesn’t light anymore...and on other later date, i do the inverse...with stock harbor kit dat back again

Jeff-Groves · 01-31-21, 03:00 PM

If one uses Commander that's a good way to do it.

010 would still make your work much faster.

Fifi · 02-01-21, 02:06 AM

This French lighthouses question brought me to read a little more about...
And at my surprise, they were not all black out!
Only the far ones, not lighting harbor entrance, but lighting coasts for navigation were off.
The others for harbor entrance were partially black out, only lighting when Germans needed them...
So it’s way too complicated to bring this feature ingame, as it was in reality.
At least for me. No big deal anyway.

John Pancoast · 02-01-21, 08:55 AM

Good idea anyway Fifi. Instead how about getting rid of the escorts hydrophones and have them continuously doing asdic searches as was the case historically vs. the silly way Sh3 is set up ?

(Can't be done but have to have dreams, eh ?)

Fifi · 02-01-21, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by John Pancoast

Good idea anyway Fifi. Instead how about getting rid of the escorts hydrophones and have them continuously doing asdic searches as was the case historically vs. the silly way Sh3 is set up ?

(Can't be done but have to have dreams, eh ?)

Dunno how to do this...but best would be to let them the hydrophone!
Just a constantly ASDIC running (or sonar for Americans guys)

John Pancoast · 02-01-21, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Fifi

Dunno how to do this...but best would be to let them the hydrophone!
Just a constantly ASDIC running (or sonar for Americans guys)

Problem is the game is coded so that asdic doesn't get used until there is a hydrophone contact (completely ahistorical) so it would probably require an .exe edit.
H.sie where are you !

LGN1 · 02-01-21, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by John Pancoast

Problem is the game is coded so that asdic doesn't get used until there is a hydrophone contact (completely ahistorical) so it would probably require an .exe edit.
H.sie where are you !

Hi John,

I have often read similar comments, but I have no idea on what facts these comments are based. Is it just that you don't hear a sonar sound?

I think SH3 takes the ASDIC sensor into account all the times when it calculates the probability that you are detected. However, to decide whether you are detected it only takes the sensor with the highest probability into account. And that is usually the hydrophone.

What is completely unrealistic in SH3 is that the hydrophone sensor also provides the depth of the u-boat and thus can be used for a depth-charge attack

In real life you needed ASDIC for this and that's why having only a hydrophone was basically useless for hunting. In SH3 the hydrophone is therefore just an ASDIC sensor which reacts to noise instead of exposed area.

Best, LGN1

Fifi · 02-01-21, 05:06 PM

What puzzled me in AI sensors dat, is hydrophone and sonar sensors are mixed up! (Inversed)...in all mods.

LGN1 · 02-01-21, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fifi

What puzzled me in AI sensors dat, is hydrophone and sonar sensors are mixed up! (Inversed)...in all mods.

I think this is a bug in S3D. There should be old threads about this issue.

Best, LGN1

01-31-21, 09:17 AM	#1
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 6,092 Downloads: 466 Uploads: 0	Light House question Hi, Quick question: do you know what file exactly makes the lights on or off on light houses? Thanks in advance __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/rfw2h...N_V7.8.7z/file

01-31-21, 09:29 AM	#2
blackswan40 GWX - KC Crash Test Dummy Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: IN THE STEEL SHARKS VIRTUAL OCEAN Posts: 2,782 Downloads: 612 Uploads: 31	Hi Fifi ive flaged your post to Blueduck of the LSH2020 Team __________________ Someone Had to Make the Tea

01-31-21, 02:00 PM	#6
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,652 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	That could be done. You would need to change the light houses to a different file then use eqp.cfg to control when the ParticleGenerator is used. THEN search all location dats for Light_hoouse so you can change the Placement Node information. SweetScape 010 can do that in seconds instead of doing a manual search. In stock SH3.... There are 95 occurrences in 35 files out of 97 files searched. Granted not all of those will be French areas. 010 can also do a mass replacement of ID numbers/names once you build the new files. Last edited by Jeff-Groves; 01-31-21 at 02:13 PM.

02-01-21, 02:06 AM	#9
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 6,092 Downloads: 466 Uploads: 0	This French lighthouses question brought me to read a little more about... And at my surprise, they were not all black out! Only the far ones, not lighting harbor entrance, but lighting coasts for navigation were off. The others for harbor entrance were partially black out, only lighting when Germans needed them... So it’s way too complicated to bring this feature ingame, as it was in reality. At least for me. No big deal anyway. __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/rfw2h...N_V7.8.7z/file

02-01-21, 08:55 AM	#10
John Pancoast Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Minnysoda Posts: 3,211 Downloads: 501 Uploads: 4	Good idea anyway Fifi. Instead how about getting rid of the escorts hydrophones and have them continuously doing asdic searches as was the case historically vs. the silly way Sh3 is set up ? (Can't be done but have to have dreams, eh ?) __________________ "Realistic" is not always GAME-GOOD." - Wave Skipper

01-31-21, 01:05 PM	#4
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,652 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Look in Harbor_kit.dat Generic_light_hoouse You'll find a ParticleGenerator

01-31-21, 03:00 PM	#8
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,652 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	If one uses Commander that's a good way to do it. 010 would still make your work much faster.

02-01-21, 05:06 PM	#14
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 6,092 Downloads: 466 Uploads: 0	What puzzled me in AI sensors dat, is hydrophone and sonar sensors are mixed up! (Inversed)...in all mods. __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/rfw2h...N_V7.8.7z/file Last edited by Fifi; 02-01-21 at 05:21 PM.