Most accurate Targeting method?

[derstosstrupp]

Are you a member of the Subsim Discord server? Some night we should connect on there for a screen share and I can help you with some of these items.

[Sickents]

Originally Posted by derstosstrupp

Are you a member of the Subsim Discord server? Some night we should connect on there for a screen share and I can help you with some of these items.

this would be good for him, I have spent a far bit of time on steam voice with him trying to teach, but maybe I don't explain things clearly enough, sometimes it's not the student's fault but the teacher's fault for not being able to explain in a term the student can understand and memorize

[CassiousClay]

Originally Posted by derstosstrupp

Are you a member of the Subsim Discord server? Some night we should connect on there for a screen share and I can help you with some of these items.

I'd really appreciate that level of help but I avoid Discord. Steam?

Originally Posted by Sickents

this would be good for him, I have spent a far bit of time on steam voice with him trying to teach, but maybe I don't explain things clearly enough, sometimes it's not the student's fault but the teacher's fault for not being able to explain in a term the student can understand and memorize

You're instruction was awesome and very much appreciated!!!
My bad memory is at fault for why I can't consistently do it. I'm not doing one of the steps or something. I wish I would have recorded video of it so I had something like that to go back to and ID the things I'm not doing that's causing the failures. If I get a chance to do that again with someone I'd like to record it so we don't have to do it again.

We didn't cover the attack disk and RAOBF which is fine with me. Those tools seem really accurate. There's obviously other ways to do targeting without using them. Are they as quick as using the disk tools? Are they more accurate? And of course I know it comes down to what works best for me personally of all the ways there is to do it. So far what you showed me, Sickents, is a way of doing it I'm comfortable with. If only I could remember or ID what I'm screwing up...
I'm not sure I want to learn how to use the Attack disk but I'm not going to throw the idea of learning it out. I've seen people say the RAOBF and attack disk are quicker than measuring and timing and calculating but the length of videos I've seen of people using them say different.

Some videos are a few short minutes. Others are an hour+ I have a hard time sitting through and watching all of.

I was just watching this one and it doesn't make any sense to me where he's getting the numbers from.



I know this is the SH5 forum. Examples. The games are similar enough aren't they? It seems targeting and plotting a course is the same basic concept in all these sub sim games.

His screen is drastically different than my SH3 GWX3 (Gold). I don't have that chronometer at the top right on my screen it's just the ship info note thing and my buttons and dials aren't in the same place. Is it a different ship or different mods than I'm running?
I know it doesn't really matter where the dials are knowing what they do and how to use them is the important part I don't know and need to learn.

Then the my memory sucks thing. I can't remember everything explained in a 14 minute video when I'm playing to apply it.

[Sickents]

Originally Posted by CassiousClay

I'd really appreciate that level of help but I avoid Discord. Steam?



You're instruction was awesome and very much appreciated!!!
My bad memory is at fault for why I can't consistently do it. I'm not doing one of the steps or something. I wish I would have recorded video of it so I had something like that to go back to and ID the things I'm not doing that's causing the failures. If I get a chance to do that again with someone I'd like to record it so we don't have to do it again.

We didn't cover the attack disk and RAOBF which is fine with me. Those tools seem really accurate. There's obviously other ways to do targeting without using them. Are they as quick as using the disk tools? Are they more accurate? And of course I know it comes down to what works best for me personally of all the ways there is to do it. So far what you showed me, Sickents, is a way of doing it I'm comfortable with. If only I could remember or ID what I'm screwing up...
I'm not sure I want to learn how to use the Attack disk but I'm not going to throw the idea of learning it out. I've seen people say the RAOBF and attack disk are quicker than measuring and timing and calculating but the length of videos I've seen of people using them say different.

Some videos are a few short minutes. Others are an hour+ I have a hard time sitting through and watching all of.

I was just watching this one and it doesn't make any sense to me where he's getting the numbers from.



I know this is the SH5 forum. Examples. The games are similar enough aren't they? It seems targeting and plotting a course is the same basic concept in all these sub sim games.

His screen is drastically different than my SH3 GWX3 (Gold). I don't have that chronometer at the top right on my screen it's just the ship info note thing and my buttons and dials aren't in the same place. Is it a different ship or different mods than I'm running?
I know it doesn't really matter where the dials are knowing what they do and how to use them is the important part I don't know and need to learn.

Then the my memory sucks thing. I can't remember everything explained in a 14 minute video when I'm playing to apply it.

the way I showed you is the simplest beginner way I could think of, the attack disk is the next step, the way I showed you of doing it on the map with map contacts on if done correctly is 100% accurate, the 3 mins 15 secs variant of speed calculation is more accurate then the 1-minute speed calculation, I should have showed you the 3 min 15-sec variant as opposed to the quick 1 min calculations, that is my fault, with the 1 min method you need to round up and round down the measurement to the chart as the ruler only does intervals of 50 meters, so the ruler will show 200 when it might actually be 248, kinda need to move the ruler on that final mark back and forth and see if it's closer to 200 or to 250 meters , being 1 knot out at 1000 meters is ok though providing they are not doing above 12 knots you should still hit the target if your firing with-in 1000 meters.

the 3 min 15 method is simple though, set a mark on the bow of the ship, time it for 3 mins 15 sec.s, make another mark on the bow of ship, now say the ruler reads 400 meters, the ship is doing 4 knots, 700 meters is 7 knots, 1400 meters is 14 knots

the above video is very very good and informative , if you are ready to take the next step, follow his instructions

[CassiousClay]

Maybe I'm getting old LOL. The stuff we need to learn and know just to play this game can be overwhelming. But that's exactly why I wanted a sub sim.

Here is what I do remember to do from what you taught me, Sicknets:

1. Periscope and lock. Press X (L in SH3) to follow target with scope.
2. Mark, time, and measure to get the speed.
3. Get angle of bow with protractor starting from my ship, draw to target ship, draw angle line referencing it's bow point.

and that's where I think I'm missing a step. In fact now that I typed it out I think what I'm not doing is setting the AOB in whatever dial it needs to be set in.

The next step I do is watch the gyro angle dials waiting for them to zero to fire.

[Sickents]

Originally Posted by CassiousClay

Maybe I'm getting old LOL. The stuff we need to learn and know just to play this game can be overwhelming. But that's exactly why I wanted a sub sim.

Here is what I do remember to do from what you taught me, Sicknets:

1. Periscope and lock. Press X (L in SH3) to follow target with scope.
2. Mark, time, and measure to get the speed.
3. Get angle of bow with protractor starting from my ship, draw to target ship, draw angle line referencing it's bow point.

and that's where I think I'm missing a step. In fact now that I typed it out I think what I'm not doing is setting the AOB in whatever dial it needs to be set in.

The next step I do is watch the gyro angle dials waiting for them to zero to fire.

yes sounds like an AOB issue, make sure you are still locked onto the target when you input the AOB value, if it is not locked onto the target when you input the AOB, it will be incorrect, as the TDC will be auto keeping track and calculating from the point of where the periscope was at the time of input

[CassiousClay]

Where do I put the AOB once I have it? That's the part I'm not doing, I think.
There may be more I'm forgetting and not doing.