More cutscenes - good or bad?

DeepSix · 06-22-06, 05:45 AM

No cut scenes, period, if I had my way (and I won't, and I'm not trying to change anybody's mind, so I don't mind saying what I think about cut-scenes

). All they ever do is put me that much closer to developing carpal tunnels.

SH3's startup is a procession of films, splash screens, and progress bars - downright interminable. "Fixin' to get ready to start." I know you already foresaw this objection, but I'll say it anyhow: after I've played it once - once - I have no use for all the clutter and it just gets steadily more annoying from there.

So, to make a "wish list" item out of this

, how 'bout giving players a .cfg file where they actually can turn off this stuff if they want?

All that aside, though, splashes and cuts are sort of par for the course - certainly nothing that would prevent me buying the game. I'd rather not have 'em, but you and others rather would. My utterly unfounded prediction, therefore, is that whatever we get will be more than I want and less than you want.

Safe-Keeper · 06-22-06, 08:00 AM

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So, to make a "wish list" item out of this

, how 'bout giving players a .cfg file where they actually can turn off this stuff if they want?

How about making it an in-game setting in the Options menu? All games should have that.

[ X ] Play Opening Film.

Oh, and how about some damned subtitles while we're at it? Option to turn the off, of course. Especially if the movie's in part or wholly in a foreign tongue (points to the opening film in a certain sub game

).

Regarding the poll, what I find interesting is that so many are in favour of a Career End cutscene, which I did not vote for, but not a Career Start film, which I did vote for.

Or maybe I am in favour of a Career End film, when I think of it.

DeepSix · 06-22-06, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

How about making it an in-game setting in the Options menu? All games should have that.

[ X ] Play Opening Film.

...

Sure, that'd work for me.

06-22-06, 11:12 AM

When I think of cutscenes I think of:

Red Baron: A short film of your pilot getting a medal pinned on him. A newspaper headline about his exploits/death.

Aces Of The Deep: Likewise the newspaper clippings.

Silent Hunter: Scene of fireworks upon successful completion of a career; a wreath on the water commemorating your loss.

I sometimes watch the SHIII intro movies, but when I don't want to it's a simple matter to click them away. Also simple to delete them from the respective folders, or replace them with blank files.

I voted "Yes" to all.

CCIP · 06-22-06, 12:49 PM

Yea, the little things are great. Just look at SHIII commander - even the "personnel file" is an awesome feature that adds so much immersion just with a few lines of text with your captain's background and career.

Cut scenes might be nice, the best ones would be things like little newsreels about your successes and the war progress. It would be nice to come back from patrol and watch the war news before going on the next one.
Actually, though, I'd love to see some of the even more basic little details that add life to the game. The paper clippings would be great. A more interactive 'office' and 'drydock' would be even cooler.

But the absolute most important thing, I think, is that the game tries to incorporate the features that SHIII commander had!

Safe-Keeper · 06-22-06, 01:15 PM

[Slaps forehead, hears hollow echo from within empty blonde head]

Oh my God, how dumb we are

!

Seems everyone here forgot about something else very, very, very worthy of a cutscene.

Funerals at sea, anyone? A sad scene in which the body is lowered into the water and roses are thrown after him, set to a melancholic, sad theme (preferably that trumpet fanfare played during funerals or moments of grief in war, do you know which one I mean

?).

Gee, I oughtta go see someone. If funerals ain't worthy of cutscenes, nothing is

.

PS: Would one of you moderators mind fixing the UBB of the poll, please? Thanks in advance.

06-22-06, 04:31 PM

Excellent idea, Safe-Keeper! I don't know if they want to do something like that, but it sure would be neat.

nikimcbee · 06-24-06, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

When I think of cutscenes I think of:

Red Baron: A short film of your pilot getting a medal pinned on him. A newspaper headline about his exploits/death.

Aces Of The Deep: Likewise the newspaper clippings.

What Steve said....

I liked the cutscenes from sh1, maybe make them nicer.

CWorth · 06-28-06, 09:22 AM

I had to vote no cutscenes.

All I ever do is click past them or remove them all together and never watch them in any game I have that uses them.They are nothing more than an annoyance to me so I can do without them.

Drebbel · 06-28-06, 09:29 AM

I agree. who need a cut scene of for example my sub arriving back home when I have a nice 3d port, a boat excorting me, a radio message, some people on the quay welcoming me.

View Poll Results: Which of these cutscenes do you want in SHIV (you may select multiple options)
Opening Film.	33	62.26%
Career Start (one film, regardless of starting year)	9	16.98%
OR Career Start (one film for each year)	26	49.06%
Career End (Career at an end from retirement, death, capture, etc.)[/b]	34	64.15%
Single-Player Mission start.	17	32.08%
Single-Player Mission end (one for victory, one for defeat).	19	35.85%
I don't want any cutscenes.	11	20.75%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

06-22-06, 05:45 AM	#1
DeepSix Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Music City Posts: 683 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	No cut scenes, period, if I had my way (and I won't, and I'm not trying to change anybody's mind, so I don't mind saying what I think about cut-scenes). All they ever do is put me that much closer to developing carpal tunnels. SH3's startup is a procession of films, splash screens, and progress bars - downright interminable. "Fixin' to get ready to start." I know you already foresaw this objection, but I'll say it anyhow: after I've played it once - once - I have no use for all the clutter and it just gets steadily more annoying from there. So, to make a "wish list" item out of this, how 'bout giving players a .cfg file where they actually can turn off this stuff if they want? All that aside, though, splashes and cuts are sort of par for the course - certainly nothing that would prevent me buying the game. I'd rather not have 'em, but you and others rather would. My utterly unfounded prediction, therefore, is that whatever we get will be more than I want and less than you want. __________________ Jack's happy days will soon be gone, To return again, oh never! For they've raised his pay five cents a day, But they've stopped his grog forever. For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, But tomorrow we'll be sober. - "Farewell to Grog"

06-22-06, 12:49 PM	#5
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Yea, the little things are great. Just look at SHIII commander - even the "personnel file" is an awesome feature that adds so much immersion just with a few lines of text with your captain's background and career. Cut scenes might be nice, the best ones would be things like little newsreels about your successes and the war progress. It would be nice to come back from patrol and watch the war news before going on the next one. Actually, though, I'd love to see some of the even more basic little details that add life to the game. The paper clippings would be great. A more interactive 'office' and 'drydock' would be even cooler. But the absolute most important thing, I think, is that the game tries to incorporate the features that SHIII commander had! __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

06-22-06, 01:15 PM	#6
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	[Slaps forehead, hears hollow echo from within empty blonde head] Oh my God, how dumb we are! Seems everyone here forgot about something else very, very, very worthy of a cutscene. Funerals at sea, anyone? A sad scene in which the body is lowered into the water and roses are thrown after him, set to a melancholic, sad theme (preferably that trumpet fanfare played during funerals or moments of grief in war, do you know which one I mean?). Gee, I oughtta go see someone. If funerals ain't worthy of cutscenes, nothing is. PS: Would one of you moderators mind fixing the UBB of the poll, please? Thanks in advance. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

06-22-06, 11:12 AM	#4
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	When I think of cutscenes I think of: Red Baron: A short film of your pilot getting a medal pinned on him. A newspaper headline about his exploits/death. Aces Of The Deep: Likewise the newspaper clippings. Silent Hunter: Scene of fireworks upon successful completion of a career; a wreath on the water commemorating your loss. I sometimes watch the SHIII intro movies, but when I don't want to it's a simple matter to click them away. Also simple to delete them from the respective folders, or replace them with blank files. I voted "Yes" to all.

06-22-06, 04:31 PM	#7
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Excellent idea, Safe-Keeper! I don't know if they want to do something like that, but it sure would be neat.

06-28-06, 09:22 AM	#9
CWorth Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gettysburg PA Posts: 845 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I had to vote no cutscenes. All I ever do is click past them or remove them all together and never watch them in any game I have that uses them.They are nothing more than an annoyance to me so I can do without them.

06-28-06, 09:29 AM	#10
Drebbel Dutch Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Almost at periscope death ! Posts: 1,665 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I agree. who need a cut scene of for example my sub arriving back home when I have a nice 3d port, a boat excorting me, a radio message, some people on the quay welcoming me.