US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 755

August · 11-12-20, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Tucker Carlson "reveals", ok. Isn't it more like he asserts that?
Where is the real evidence? Trump and Calson have lied so often that it is hard to keep track.
So he claims that 25 dead indviduals have voted? And four were from Georgia, he says.
Let's assume it is true, these 25 will shift the election outcome to Trump?
But then he also says it is not even sure if those 25 voted for Trump, or Biden.

I take it that the real voter fraud numbers will even be much higher than those 25, but even then it will not change the outcome. Get over it and move on.

First you say there is no voter fraud then when confronted with evidence you claim it's not enough to make a difference. Remarkable how similar you sound to the Democrat party line...

Think of it as a poll Catfish. Carlson did not conduct a comprehensive survey of all voters and all precincts but neither do polls. They survey a few hundred people and extrapolate their responses into a national breakdown for 360 million people with only a tiny plus or minus percentage error factor.

If Carlson has 25 cases that he can prove then it stands to reason there are many many more out there waiting to be found. Democrats are doing all they can to stop that from happening and you're just parroting their propaganda.

mapuc · 11-12-20, 04:20 PM

I'm convinced that this voter fraud or the attempt to do so have gone both way.

I'm also convinced that this voter fraud or the attempt hasn't been as massive, which some of my friends on the web is trying to tell others.

Markus

Skybird · 11-12-20, 04:40 PM

https://www.axios.com/trump-fox-news...0ffa42420.html

Wait - there are actually people who would pay subscription for this...?

Well, I forgot of course. I mean there are also people who hand over all their belongings and wealth to things like the Moon sect and Scientology - so why not for a digital propaganda platform as well. Paula White got stinking rich with this faithful trick.

Den seinen gibts der Herr im Schlafe, aber von den Dummen nimmt er.

Catfish · 11-12-20, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by August

First you say there is no voter fraud then when confronted with evidence you claim it's not enough to make a difference. Remarkable how similar you sound to the Democrat party line...

You really believe in conspiracy theories

What i clearly wrote and meant is that even if Tucker Calson would be right and if there would be even more voter fraud, it will not change the election outcome.
You cannot even tell who those 25 or more or less voted for! Do you really think after those four years of blunder that Trump and his minions will not lie and bend and foul and disregard realities to their advantage?

Maybe Trump has the legal right to delay the process of transition, but does he morally? Ok Trump and moral, sorry.
Up to now there still is no evidence of intentional fraud even if Tucker Carlson or the whole KuKluxClan asserted that, and now the whole US will have to wait to satisfy Trump's ego until some serious steps against the pandemic can be made. Ok, your funeral.
If Pompeo says there will be a smooth transition to a second Trump term he is a criminal trying to overthrow your constitution.

As they say "there is a term for Trump, but obviously not a second term."
Or only with a military coup.
See you in two weeks.

mapuc · 11-12-20, 05:01 PM

Some authorities can't remember who, have asked Trump for evidence in his accusation where he claim something with massive voter fraud.

Has Trump delivered these evidence ? I haven't heard anything.

I'm not mocking Trump. He has, as anyone else, the right to be heard and any doubt shall come to his benefit..He shall however put these evidence forward if he hasn't already done so.

Markus

Catfish · 11-12-20, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Has Trump delivered these evidence ? I haven't heard anything.

Because he has not. Of course he does not personally. His lawyers, demanding the recount etc. have not come up with evidence. But as said Trump has the legal right to have a recount, let's just wait and see.

mapuc · 11-12-20, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Because he has not. Of course he does not personally. His lawyers, demanding the recount etc. have not come up with evidence. But as said Trump has the legal right to have a recount, let's just wait and see.

I heard in the news some days ago that there isn't the same type of laws in each states when it comes to the Presidential election.

It was told that in state like Georgia the shall be a recount if the difference between to candidate is 1.0 or 0.5 % or lower. Which was the case in this election and this is why they are recounting the votes by hand.

Markus

August · 11-12-20, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

You really believe in conspiracy theories

That's rich coming from a guy who promoted anti-Trump conspiracies for the past four years.

u crank · 11-12-20, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Wait - there are actually people who would pay subscription for this...?

People pay to read the New York Times.

Skybird · 11-12-20, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank

People pay to read the New York Times.

Yes, having learned to read means to have advantages in life. Trump plans to compensate for that lack by making it a moving pictures stream with voice narration.

u crank · 11-12-20, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Yes, having learned to read means to have advantages in life. Trump plans to compensate for that lack by making it a moving pictures stream with voice narration.

And that is different from other digital platforms ... how?

August · 11-12-20, 07:00 PM

skidman · 11-12-20, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Carlson did not conduct a comprehensive survey of all voters and all precincts but neither do polls. They survey a few hundred people and extrapolate their responses into a national breakdown for 360 million people with only a tiny plus or minus percentage error factor.

If Carlson has 25 cases that he can prove then it stands to reason there are many many more out there waiting to be found.

But Carlson has nothing in hand to provide a basis for statistical extrapolations. There is no sample representing a reasonable proportion of the population. How can we formulate an assumption, run the tests required, compute a confidence interval and evaluate the quality of results. Nothing of this can be done with the data available.

Waving with 25 ballots in your hand might be good enough to go to court (I don't think so). But that's it. And I wonder how many judges would settle for "there are many many more out there."

Go to court, have a recount if necessary but stop these absurd allegations. Apart from that: Mr. Trump should stop playing his personnel turnover games in the Pentagon. Enough damage has been done already.

August · 11-12-20, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by skidman

Go to court, have a recount if necessary but stop these absurd allegations. Apart from that: Mr. Trump should stop playing his personnel turnover games in the Pentagon. Enough damage has been done already.

And Tucker Carlson is not a government lawyer nor is he working for the Trump campaign. His 25 dead people are just proof that it happened, no more no less. The fact that he had to conduct his own investigation was sadly necessary since the Democrats and their media allies are attempting to deny it's very existence. They're wrong and here's proof simple as that.

Buddahaid · 11-12-20, 08:29 PM

Carlson's 25 are nothing and not proof of anything yet. For all anyone knows he created them.

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Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,333 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Carlson's 25 are nothing and not proof of anything yet. For all anyone knows he created them. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

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mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,586 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I'm convinced that this voter fraud or the attempt to do so have gone both way. I'm also convinced that this voter fraud or the attempt hasn't been as massive, which some of my friends on the web is trying to tell others. Markus

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mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,586 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Some authorities can't remember who, have asked Trump for evidence in his accusation where he claim something with massive voter fraud. Has Trump delivered these evidence ? I haven't heard anything. I'm not mocking Trump. He has, as anyone else, the right to be heard and any doubt shall come to his benefit..He shall however put these evidence forward if he hasn't already done so. Markus