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Old 11-10-20, 02:46 AM   #1
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Thanks for defining your semantics for "beta".
Read again what i wrote - there is small chance this time you will understand.

Simple version for you:
1. RA 1.50 was complete except 3d model of charlie.
2. Waiting for Charlie took 3-4 weeks without any info when 3d model will be complete
3. Developer decided to release RA 1.50 as "beta" and add 3d model of Charlie II later (now is simple low poly from vanilla game)

Of course every time after releasing new version players discovers some bugs. So list of bugs was created for fix in final version. Its the same as releasing RA 1.XX + patch

But waiting for 3d model was much longer than everyone expected - so new feature (torpedo wire lenght) will be added as some kind of "bonus"

Clear?



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I have 12 almost identical missions where ....
Fascinating! What you wanna to do with your tests and missions?
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Old 11-10-20, 03:38 AM   #2
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Read again what i wrote - there is small chance this time you will understand.

Simple version for you:
1. RA 1.50 was complete except 3d model of charlie.
2. Waiting for Charlie took 3-4 weeks without any info when 3d model will be complete
3. Developer decided to release RA 1.50 as "beta" and add 3d model of Charlie II later (now is simple low poly from vanilla game)

Of course every time after releasing new version players discovers some bugs. So list of bugs was created for fix in final version. Its the same as releasing RA 1.XX + patch

But waiting for 3d model was much longer than everyone expected - so new feature (torpedo wire lenght) will be added as some kind of "bonus"

Clear?

Fascinating! What you wanna to do with your tests and missions?

Your first post was perfectly clear. Thank you.


I just had 1.49 installed already. What's the link for 1.50?


The missions and testing are to understand the sensors and their use better. Since SC, everyone has been modding platform noise and sensors, but you are never really told what that means in precise terms.


If I can hold a TA tracker at maximum range on a contact with the TA only 10% deployed, than why should I stream 100%? It is the difference between 1 minute and 10 minutes to be able to call for flank speed.
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Old 11-10-20, 04:24 AM   #3
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Alright, the deploy/retrieval TA time (TB-29) is not 10 minutes. I did not time it, but it is probably closer 3-4 minutes.


Identical mission with parallel cruise ship at 7KTS.


DWX 1.49: Max NB detection 40nmi. Min reliable TA deployment 25% to hold contact (tracker).



DW stock: Max NB detection 45nmi. Min reliable TA deployment 50% to hold contact (tracker).


That's my data. Given that I was testing in 5nmi increments, they may well be closer than it looks.



This is not a bad outcome. Why? For the player, it means missions made for stock DW should be playable in RA.


I am happy with your mod. Thank you.
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Old 11-10-20, 12:02 PM   #4
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Your first post was perfectly clear.
I doubt because you called it semantic but it definately wasn't semantic :P
But im glad you understood simple version.

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What's the link for 1.50?
Easiest way is to use links from my discord channel (click on my signature).

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Why? For the player, it means missions made for stock DW should be playable in RA..
Really? What values are crucial for compatibility? In my opinion your test proves nothing usefull. Also you didn't checked "input data" because base Passive sonar SL for cruise ship in vanilla is different than in RA
88 in vanilla
82 in RA 1.49 & 1.50 beta

It looks like you did completly useless test for checking compatibility and forgot to check really important values


Btw did you saw cruise ship on open seas running with 7 kts?
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Old 11-10-20, 12:14 PM   #5
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I am just looking to see if I can use the SCS mission generator, or if I need to create my own. I used to do that previously.


I gave up on sub sims mainly because I don't have time to patrol for days and find nothing. I think it is a result of age and health.


Well, I will give a few things a try and see if they are truly useless.


Thanks for directing me to the links.
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Old 11-10-20, 03:15 PM   #6
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If I can hold a TA tracker at maximum range on a contact with the TA only 10% deployed, than why should I stream 100%? It is the difference between 1 minute and 10 minutes to be able to call for flank speed.

I never go beyond 25-30% deployed. Maybe 10% now with your testing. The only reason to deploy it further is to dip it below a layer or, if you're below a layer in the shadow zone, dip it out of the shadow zone to listen to stuff above the layer.
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I never go beyond 25-30% deployed. Maybe 10% now with your testing. The only reason to deploy it further is to dip it below a layer or, if you're below a layer in the shadow zone, dip it out of the shadow zone to listen to stuff above the layer.

I am happy to find out that I am not a nut case.


I am not the best player out there by a long shot, but a software engineer who will test anything I get my hands on.


PS: With further testing, I would say that 10% is too iffy (boundary case). You want to make sure you keep that tracker, since losing it is losing your solution.
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