The long death and long birth of two airports

Jimbuna · 10-25-20, 08:56 AM

Any idea what it currently runs at in Euros, Dollars or Ponds?

For example, the UK amount has just passed £2 trillion which is 85.4% of GDP

Skybird · 10-25-20, 12:34 PM

Nobody can give reliable numbers currently, its all in flux, due to Corona. The flux is upwards, of course.

2019 total national GDP of Germany was 3.845 trillion.

One of the issues is that while many aid payments had been announced and many creits had been planned, only around ine third of the sum planned for Covid-19 this year has been asked for by intended receivers (!). But this too is in flux.

All numbers out there or being claimed by some, must be taken with utmost caution currently. The costs are high, but currently not as high as was feared. I read earlier that only a third of the aid being planned and reserved, so far has been called up by intended receivers. Currently, Germany gets through all this much better than many others. But infection numbers are exploding, they have lost control and tracking. I think we will see total lockdown before chritsmas, thoigh maybe they will not call it that.
The many pay the price due to the irresponsibility of the few. Also, UV sun radiation now is down, Vitamine D levels go down as well, and so I think it will get much worse than it was in Spring.

Nurtrition and and immune system strengthening still plays no role in the official advising. Its unbelievable. It would be the easiest and most cost-effective measurement to get all this mess under control quickly. I claim supplementation of some vitamines and minerals to the elder in caretaking homes, the nurses and teachers, the pupils, and the the rest, every employee. Could be done with little, with hilarious little money, by employers, institutions... But then one would need to admit how lousy the feeding standard in our oh so great modern world is, and in caretaking faciltiies and hospitals - not wanted!

Think of it. Food. Season. Sun. Vitamine D. Who is most exposed to risks? Old people with degraded metabolic functions, no exercise and often lousy food habits and crap food in caretaking facilities. It all matches.

Its a nutrition deficiency pandemic.

Not just Vitamine-D!

Catfish · 10-25-20, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Any idea what it currently runs at in Euros, Dollars or Ponds?

Couldn't earth already introduce one system please

German debts are 2.05 trillion euros in 2019 - debt ratio fell from 61.9% to 59.8%. Thanks to Corona, brexit and oncoming earthquakes or climate problems it will be most probably worse in 2020

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Jimbuna · 10-25-20, 02:13 PM

So it's looking like both the UK and Germany are in similar positions regarding the amount of debt but each countries GDP is different.

Skybird · 10-25-20, 08:17 PM

^ Not really, imo. While both coutnries have corona, health systems are very differently and will cause different follow-on costs from maintainig them, and follow-pon costs from patient being treated or not treated - the German system has far greater reserve capacities. Also, the UK has Brexit turmoils and an unpredictbaloe future fromt hat, costs canot be caöucölated anymore imo, while Geran has the costs from filling most of the vacuums in payments left by the ZUk in in the EU. With worstenign money crisis, thsi also can and will become unpredictable soon, and most likely devastating fore all, the EU, the UK, and the rest of the world.

No, too many things are in flux. I woudl say nobody has a realistic expectation currently of what thje future will brign,a nd what it will be like. Its a crisis that hit us while we already sit inside a crisis that hit us while we were sitting in a crisis. Frequency and amplitude of the symptoms we feel, both intensify. Not good. The onyl question is whether the developing countries blow up nefore us, or short after us. Probably the first.

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Thanks to corona, the too small airport in berlin maybe now will meet shrunk traffic demands for a while. Hooray!

Jimbuna · 10-26-20, 06:33 AM

Whichever way it pans out I think we can both agree, it is one gigantic future mess in the making.

10-25-20, 08:56 AM	#1
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,661 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Any idea what it currently runs at in Euros, Dollars or Ponds? For example, the UK amount has just passed £2 trillion which is 85.4% of GDP __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-25-20, 12:34 PM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,663 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Nobody can give reliable numbers currently, its all in flux, due to Corona. The flux is upwards, of course. 2019 total national GDP of Germany was 3.845 trillion. One of the issues is that while many aid payments had been announced and many creits had been planned, only around ine third of the sum planned for Covid-19 this year has been asked for by intended receivers (!). But this too is in flux. All numbers out there or being claimed by some, must be taken with utmost caution currently. The costs are high, but currently not as high as was feared. I read earlier that only a third of the aid being planned and reserved, so far has been called up by intended receivers. Currently, Germany gets through all this much better than many others. But infection numbers are exploding, they have lost control and tracking. I think we will see total lockdown before chritsmas, thoigh maybe they will not call it that. The many pay the price due to the irresponsibility of the few. Also, UV sun radiation now is down, Vitamine D levels go down as well, and so I think it will get much worse than it was in Spring. Nurtrition and and immune system strengthening still plays no role in the official advising. Its unbelievable. It would be the easiest and most cost-effective measurement to get all this mess under control quickly. I claim supplementation of some vitamines and minerals to the elder in caretaking homes, the nurses and teachers, the pupils, and the the rest, every employee. Could be done with little, with hilarious little money, by employers, institutions... But then one would need to admit how lousy the feeding standard in our oh so great modern world is, and in caretaking faciltiies and hospitals - not wanted! Think of it. Food. Season. Sun. Vitamine D. Who is most exposed to risks? Old people with degraded metabolic functions, no exercise and often lousy food habits and crap food in caretaking facilities. It all matches. Its a nutrition deficiency pandemic. Not just Vitamine-D! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-25-20, 02:13 PM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,661 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	So it's looking like both the UK and Germany are in similar positions regarding the amount of debt but each countries GDP is different. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

10-25-20, 08:17 PM	#5
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,663 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	^ Not really, imo. While both coutnries have corona, health systems are very differently and will cause different follow-on costs from maintainig them, and follow-pon costs from patient being treated or not treated - the German system has far greater reserve capacities. Also, the UK has Brexit turmoils and an unpredictbaloe future fromt hat, costs canot be caöucölated anymore imo, while Geran has the costs from filling most of the vacuums in payments left by the ZUk in in the EU. With worstenign money crisis, thsi also can and will become unpredictable soon, and most likely devastating fore all, the EU, the UK, and the rest of the world. No, too many things are in flux. I woudl say nobody has a realistic expectation currently of what thje future will brign,a nd what it will be like. Its a crisis that hit us while we already sit inside a crisis that hit us while we were sitting in a crisis. Frequency and amplitude of the symptoms we feel, both intensify. Not good. The onyl question is whether the developing countries blow up nefore us, or short after us. Probably the first. ---- Thanks to corona, the too small airport in berlin maybe now will meet shrunk traffic demands for a while. Hooray! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-26-20, 06:33 AM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,661 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Whichever way it pans out I think we can both agree, it is one gigantic future mess in the making. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!