Captain Kirk in feud with Space Force

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Catfish

I say let the space fleet have naval ranks,
and the soldiers being sent down to planets have army ranks.
You can call the latter ultramarines and clad them in blue if you must.

[Reece]

What confuses me is what are they sewing?

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

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[Platapus]

Uh... Is that dude wearing a dress?

[vienna]

A Federation "Don't ask, don't tell" policy...?...




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[Buddahaid]

Looks to be but they were called skants. They didn't last very long.

He looks like he wants to choke her for making him wear it....

[vienna]

Actually, if you think back to ST:TNG, there was a sort of similar garment with long sleeves that was some sort of formal officer's ceremonial dress uniform:





Its got longer sleeves, a more tailored look and a more structured collar, but its basically the same design as the Simplicity pic; maybe they were trying to emphasize the "dress" in "dress uniform"...




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[Buddahaid]

That's what it's supposed to fit like.

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Looks to be but they were called skants. They didn't last very long.

He looks like he wants to choke her for making him wear it....

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

That's what it's supposed to fit like.

When you posted that picture it jogged my memory; there was a bit of backlash in the ST:TNG production world when the series first came out over the uniforms; I didn't really remember the above costume, but I'd be willing to bet some one, probably the network, got negative feedback over the 'guy in a dress' thing and told the producers to dump the idea; one thing I do know for sure is when the series started and some female characters were wearing short skirts/dresses, which were a nod back to the miniskirts/mini-dresses of the female crew on the original series (Gene Roddenberry was know as a 'leg man'); times had changed in the nearly 20 years since the end of the original series and objectifying female characters wasn't as acceptable; when the first few TNG episodes aired, there were not a few criticisms about the short skirts, particularly the uniform worn by Counselor Troi played by Marina Sirtis...





Not only did a lot of the female viewers (and some male viewers) object to the costumes, so did some of the female actors who had to wear them; Sirtis really didn't like the original Troi uniform, which she derided as something like a 'space cheerleader' getup; Sirtis also didn't like that the uniform drew attention to her being a bit overweight and the producer agreed and the 'space cheerleader' was gone and replaced with a a tailored body suit that evolved as the series progressed; myself, I actually liked the body suits better than the cheerleader outfits, particular when, in Voyager, it reached its finest refinement in the bodysuit worn by 7 of 9...






Now, that's a uniform...




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