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Old 08-12-20, 01:35 AM   #1
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Probably the best animation out there of the event.

Re-enactment footage.
Thanks, have not seen this yet.

Though this IX D.2 (!) was not "sunk by using hydrophones". edit: just reread

U 864 was primarily detected because of the code breaking, and it was the third time the boat was there, having returned two times because of technical problems already. The third time the british sub was able to sink it. U-864 was heading back the third time, this time because of Diesel engine problems.

The british sub knew position and mission of U-864 via the british tapping service, having broken the code already earlier in the war (no, not the US and not U-571 ).
So the british "Venturer" may have then heard the german boat via hydrophones, but it was also clearly to be seen running a regular zig-zag course, surfaced.

The english crew was able to foresay the course, and fired four torpedoes from a distance of roughly two kilometers. The fourth torpedo was set to a deeper run, assuming the german boat would dive when it saw the incoming torpedoes, and so it did. The fourth torpedo hit, and U-864 sank.

It was not exactly an "underwater duel"..
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Old 08-12-20, 05:22 AM   #2
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Thanks, have not seen this yet.

Though this IX D.2 (!) was not "sunk by using hydrophones".
That's correct, they used a torpedo
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Old 08-12-20, 06:40 AM   #3
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That's correct, they used a torpedo




ok but it still amazes me how wrong a lot of those war stories and films are.
On the HMS Venturer site they write that U 684 was running zig zag submerged. Not true. It was surfaced and dived when they saw the incoming torpedo. Nothing to do with hydrophones.

I mean propaganda is a difficult task, you have to bedevil others, you have to describe how mean and bad and invincible threat they are, but you have to place confidence in your own people that they can be beaten.
But why repeat this now, spin it further after fifty years, or adding something wrong and even irrelevant?
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Old 09-29-20, 05:22 AM   #4
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U571 was a godawful movie and this looks even worse,No wonder I watch foreign movie's


Greyhound was just bland,I couldn't care less if they all died, except the black cook I was a bit upset about him dying,Make a movie about PQ 17 not all of us are 17
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