UbiSoft should make a modern naval sim...

[LoBlo]

Nope, I'm asking for SHIII with modern units and weapons and a good physics model. Actually it would probably be less complex and hard to produce than a good flight simulator.

Shoot for the stars and you could hit the moon.

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by LoBlo

Nope, I'm asking for SHIII with modern units and weapons and a good physics model. Actually it would probably be less complex and hard to produce than a good flight simulator.

Shoot for the stars and you could hit the moon.

I agree. But if you're looking for a modern naval sim, DW is totally incredible and available. When you upgrade it with LWAMI, it gets even better.

[Enigma]

DW is alot of things, and I enjoy it. but incredible aint one of them....

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by Enigma

DW is alot of things, and I enjoy it. but incredible aint one of them....

Well we can debate the adjectives describing DW all day long. But I don't know of any other sim that offers the ability to simulate naval platforms above, on, or below the surface in one sim. Other sims/games have great eye-candy, but don't pack in as much in one sim as DW does. Some of us believe that that earns it an "Incredible" label.

[LoBlo]

Yes, I'm currently playing DW. Its a great game. SCS has really pushed the genre . However, so much of the game seems a bit amateurish, as if they lack the game programming experience to achieve higher quality programming. Like the way they've stuggled with the physics model, and the lack of some basic AI behaviors. The graphics models range from outstanding models to substandard modeling in the same game. Its currently the best modern navy sim out there today, no doubt, and possibly the best navy sim ever made...but there are numerous things that could be done better. Maybe a more experienced game developer with a proven track record can push the genere to the next level. UbiSoft is one of them with a proven track-record, other developers would probably be capable as well.

[Enigma]

Yes, as I said, I do enjoy the game. I just think the room for improvement is vaaaast.

After a while...the graphics really started to make the game "old". I'm finding it harder and harder to play...to be honest. Maybe I'm just vain. But are those graphics the best SCS could come up with? For heaven's sake!

[Sea Demon]

Originally Posted by LoBlo

Maybe a more experienced game developer with a proven track record can push the genere to the next level. UbiSoft is one of them with a proven track-record, other developers would probably be capable as well.

Sonalysts is not primarily a PC game maker. Go to their website and see all the stuff they do. They don't just do government work either. The game makers from UBIsoft don't do 10% of what Sonalysts accomplishes. And yet Sonalysts produces a game that is by far the best modern naval sim out there. They are darn good at what they do and do indeed have a proven track record with 4 excellent games and community support. I can't say I'm too impressed with UBIsoft's overall support for their games. Nor can I say they are as responsive as Sonalysts have been with their customers.

Yes, SH3 is incredible from many aspects. I really enjoyed playing it. But still, DW is the mainstay on my hard-drive. While SH3 gives you a sense of being a U-Boat captain in WW2 in a very immersive way, DW lets you play modern naval warfare from air units, a surface unit, and submarine units. From both Red and Blue sides. While SH3 is pretty and incredibly immersive, it doesn't pack in as much as DW IMHO. Both are very excellent games though.

Originally Posted by Enigma

I just think the room for improvement is vaaaast.

OK. But I tend to look at it as potential.

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Yeah the graphics are crap in DW

I actually think the graphics are pretty good considering that most of the effort is in the sensor modelling and gameplay areas. Come on Kiwi. Aren't you being overly harsh by saying the graphics are crap?

Speaking of that, how come we didn't hear all this belly-aching over graphics while we were all eagerly anticipating DW's release? There were screenshots available you know. Don't remember any complaining over the graphics back then. :hmm:

Edited to add: Don't you SH3 people come after me or turn this thread into DW vs. SH3. I'm not knocking your game. I still recommend everyone go out and buy SH3 too. And while DW is my choice, SH3 gave me alot of good times. Both are excellent in their own rights.

[Smaragdadler]

DW Graphics are superb!!! If you REALY play DW, you know that you look for 98% of time at the STATION DISPLAYS. So, what is WRONG with that? Ever played HARPOON? No?
So better shut up, because you don't know - what #hardcore# is! :p

People who cry about DW-graphics - are just kids, who know only anime-cartoons. They go for the first time in a brothel and complain about the 'BAD VISION'!



Sincerely
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