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Old 08-10-2020, 06:06 AM   #1
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date New submarine movie: TORPEDO U-235

Hmmm... new U-boat film, let's see...
  • checks several vital PC boxes
  • has tense depth charge scene
  • fighting between the crew scene
  • torpedo skidding along the hull scene
  • plus bonus scene of firing AA guns whilst submerging


.... looks like the sequel to U-571 has finally arrived!

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During the height of World War II, commander Stan and a courageous group of resistance fighters are given a suicide mission to deliver a stolen Nazi submarine filled with atomic uranium. Hunted down by Hitler’s army, the motley crew must outwit and outmaneuver relentless German destroyers and more powerful submarine killers which will stop at nothing to send the U-boat to the bottom of the ocean before it reaches safe shores in America.
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Old 08-10-2020, 07:04 AM   #2
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^ It looks interesting and I would watch it. I found that it's available on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Torpedo-U-235.../dp/B088JP5ZZD


I found a review for this movie on Amazon. The review is negative and there are of course other reviews as well that are positive.

Quote: This movie is dubbed, and you don't have the option to watch it in its native language with subtitles. I watched it for 15 minutes and find it beyond awful, and the dubbing is mostly the reason, although from what I saw there could be a lot of things wrong with this movies, regardless of what language it's in. I wasted $5.99 but I'm going to try and recover it from Amazon, as they weren't truthful about the audio and the fact that it's really bad. I have to believe these 5-star interviews are faked because there's no way this movie is worth 5-stars.



https://www.amazon.com/Torpedo-U-235.../dp/B088JP5ZZD

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Old 08-10-2020, 07:39 AM   #3
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Seems to be a nice and pleasant experience to see.
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Oh man, I'm going to watch it tonight, this will be epic!
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They shoulda called this movie PU-239...because it stinks!

Physics jokes. I love 'em!
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Old 08-11-2020, 08:59 AM   #6
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Oh, man, that was EPIC.

The dubbing was just fine, some excellent dubs, no problem there! This is the kind of movie
that should be filmed in non-English and dubbed, it fundamentally demands it.

Opening credits, I knew this was going to be amazing when one of the producers was listed
as "Tax Shelter for the Belgium Government". Classic!

Someone said this was a hybrid of Inglorious Basterds and U-571, that's really accurate. They
tried to shoehorn in some Das Boot and Hunt for Red October tropes as well, but it didn't make
any sense at all. Don't these filmmakers ever Subsim?

Spoilers: sorry, can't really discuss without, but these are intentionally vague.

So, you can train a small group of guys to manage a submarine with a couple days of bad training?

Another underwater battle between two subs. Hey, in WWII, were any submerged subs
able to torpedo another submerged sub, solely by passive sonar? And I don't mean one was surfaced
and one was at PD, I mean 50m down, no visual bearing, range by sound alone?

Gotta love how the hydrophone operator was so precise, frequently calling out "Torpedo! Range 150 meters!"
I need this guy on my boat in Wolfpack.

So, one things I learned, if you torpedo a submerged U-boat 200m away, the thing explodes like 8 times,
and the shock waves are horrific.

When a woman shoots a rifle and blows up a destroyer, I have to say, women's rights have arrived.

Lots of throwback racist comments, stuff I haven't seen in a movie since the 60s. Of course, it was
appropriate for the time and setting in the film, but I didn't think any modern filmmakers would bring it back.


Specific spoilers: don't read if you want major elements of this soon-to-be cult classic ruined:

 
So, a German destroyer comes up on a German U-boat and they are ready to blow
it away at a moment's notice? Ok, maybe they got a warning that a rogue U-boat was operating somewhere in the Atlantic...

But then when the DD rams the U-boat, causing massive flooding in the center compartments and the
control room... they sink like a stone... but they are able to resurface hours later by simply blowing
the tanks?? What" No damage repairs were necessary? Holy cow, that's dumb writing.

Drowning babies, them Nazis were evil!

Wait, just why did the Allies need a Nazi sub to transport uranium to the US? I mean, wouldn't it have
been 1000x easier just to load it onto a few planes? Or a fast destroyer group? Jeesh, if there was ever
a more complicate and unnecessarily risky way to do something, I don't know what it is.




Summary: If you thought there couldn't be a movie you loved more than U-571, you're mistaken, my friend.

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Sounds like a blast! ☺️
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Bought it with Original Belgium audio
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Another underwater battle between two subs. Hey, in WWII, were any submerged subs
able to torpedo another submerged sub, solely by passive sonar? And I don't mean one was surfaced
and one was at PD, I mean 50m down, no visual bearing, range by sound alone?
Yep. U-864 sunk by HMS Venturer. February 9 1945.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-864
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Another underwater battle between two subs. Hey, in WWII, were any submerged subs
able to torpedo another submerged sub, solely by passive sonar? And I don't mean one was surfaced
and one was at PD, I mean 50m down, no visual bearing, range by sound alone?
Probably the best animation out there of the event.



Re-enactment footage.

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looks more accurate than that tom hanks dross.
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@ Neal: Great review I have to see that
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So, you can train a small group of guys to manage a submarine with a couple days of bad training?
That's what i thought when i read the first hints about the film..
But then you know..
I managed to kill two carrier groups with a Balao in Silent Service II, and i did not even have any training before. Also i only had to reload 12 times or so (the game, not the torpedoes) to achieve that.
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Another underwater battle between two subs. Hey, in WWII, were any submerged subs able to torpedo another submerged sub, solely by passive sonar
Yes, me in Silent Hunter II, near the virtual Azores! Ok i used external view but hey, you have to manage things with the tools at hand..
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Probably the best animation out there of the event.

Re-enactment footage.
Thanks, have not seen this yet.

Though this IX D.2 (!) was not "sunk by using hydrophones". edit: just reread

U 864 was primarily detected because of the code breaking, and it was the third time the boat was there, having returned two times because of technical problems already. The third time the british sub was able to sink it. U-864 was heading back the third time, this time because of Diesel engine problems.

The british sub knew position and mission of U-864 via the british tapping service, having broken the code already earlier in the war (no, not the US and not U-571 ).
So the british "Venturer" may have then heard the german boat via hydrophones, but it was also clearly to be seen running a regular zig-zag course, surfaced.

The english crew was able to foresay the course, and fired four torpedoes from a distance of roughly two kilometers. The fourth torpedo was set to a deeper run, assuming the german boat would dive when it saw the incoming torpedoes, and so it did. The fourth torpedo hit, and U-864 sank.

It was not exactly an "underwater duel"..
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Thanks, have not seen this yet.

Though this IX D.2 (!) was not "sunk by using hydrophones".
That's correct, they used a torpedo
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That's correct, they used a torpedo




ok but it still amazes me how wrong a lot of those war stories and films are.
On the HMS Venturer site they write that U 684 was running zig zag submerged. Not true. It was surfaced and dived when they saw the incoming torpedo. Nothing to do with hydrophones.

I mean propaganda is a difficult task, you have to bedevil others, you have to describe how mean and bad and invincible threat they are, but you have to place confidence in your own people that they can be beaten.
But why repeat this now, spin it further after fifty years, or adding something wrong and even irrelevant?
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