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Old 07-21-20, 12:05 PM   #1
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Thank you for your updates on the situation in the Mediterranean area

It's not looking good at all.

There is more potential wars ahead than the two I have mentioned.

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Old 07-22-20, 06:15 PM   #2
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Okay, its the Bild-Zeitung, but still: they claim that Tuesday evening Merkel prevented by telephone the clashing of Turkish and Greek naval forces in the Aegean sea. Almost twenty naval units of Turkey, two fighters, and several ships and fighters of the Greeks should have been involved.

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Chancellor Angela Merkel is said to have prevented an imminent military conflict between Turkey and Greece in the eastern Mediterranean on Tuesday evening. According to the "picture" information, warships and fighter jets should have been on the way.

The dispute over natural gas off the small Mediterranean island of Kastellorizo ​​has been smoldering for some time. Since Tuesday, however, numerous ships of the Turkish Navy have been moving in the Aegean and in the eastern Mediterranean south of the Greek islands of Rhodes and Crete.

Numerous ships of the Greek Navy are also in the region, as reported by the Greek state television. As the office of Greece's Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis announced on Wednesday, Prime Minister Chancellor Merkel had informed the phone about the reasons for these movements.

The Turkish authorities had announced that the research ship Oruc Reis would start new seismic surveys in the eastern Mediterranean starting on Tuesday - south of the small Greek island of Kastellorizo.

The island is located three kilometers from the Turkish south coast. It is believed that the seabeds in this region are particularly rich in raw materials, which is why both Turkey and Greece should claim the surrounding waters as an "exclusive economic zone".

In addition to ships of the Navy, the “Bild” reports that two fighter jets from the Turkish Air Force Kastellorizo ​​were also flown on Tuesday - according to the report, Greece also responded with fighter planes.

In the evening, 18 Turkish warships are said to be heading directly to the small island, which is why the Greek Navy declared the alarm state and in turn also sent warships.

Shortly before an escalation could have occurred, Chancellor Merkel then phoned the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis. Deputy government spokeswoman Ulrike Demmer did not want to confirm that she had mediated between the two, whereupon the Turkish navy canceled the maneuver, but let her know on Wednesday "that the Chancellor had called Erdogan on the phone." "She was also standing with Mr. Mitsotakis Exchange, "continued Demmer. It was about the situation in the eastern Mediterranean.

The deputy spokesman for the Federal Foreign Office, Christofer Burger, referred journalists to statements by Foreign Minister Maas in Athens on Tuesday. There he once again put forward the Federal Government's stance that "progress in EU-Turkey relations is only possible if Ankara refrains from provocations in the eastern Mediterranean". At the same time, the EU must remain in discussion with the strategically important partner Turkey.

According to the website "marinetraffic.com", the Oruc Reis was on the road outside Antalya, southern Turkey, on Wednesday. Turkish broadcaster TRT reported that the seismic surveys had not yet started. Greece had warned Turkey in the past few months not to send ships to the region to search for natural gas.
If true, then this one was close.
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Old 07-23-20, 11:11 AM   #3
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For now...Mrs Merkel and EU may postpone it...but not forever.

Erdogan & Co seems very determent to take control over this area.
As I see it, it's not a question if it's going to happen, but when.

Furthermore-If everything goes bad-Turkey may be at war against:

Greece
Egypt
and France

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Old 07-23-20, 01:37 PM   #4
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Ethiopia has create dfacts while still "negotiating" with Egypt and Somalia. The flooding of the artifical lake at the dam has been done. TV today interviewed people on the street in Egypt. They said they want to go to war against Ethiopia.



I am quite certain that right tbis will happen if they observe the situation and indeed notice waterlevels in the Nile dropping in Somalia and Egypt.



And what else should they do? Egypt covers over 90% of its sweet water demand from the Nile. They cannot afford to get cut off from that, or even shortages, right now - the lastc ouple fo years - they already have had not enough anymore.



Egypt and Somalia will watch how waterlevels develope. And if what they see is not good, then there it is - war in that region again, too.
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