Hagia Sophia about to get turned into a mosque

Jimbuna · 07-10-20, 11:24 AM

When you open your borders and invite so many different religious beliefs into your country it is hardly surprising surely.

Catfish · 07-10-20, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

When you open your borders and invite so many different religious beliefs into your country it is hardly surprising surely.

Well we did not let the Turks in to Turkey?
Erdoghan does it because it fuels his patriotic and national interests and appeals to the feeling of his followers, he likes to present himself in front of monumental buildings that symbolise imperialism.
Maybe this sounds familiar

Skybird · 07-10-20, 02:17 PM

The Hagia Sophia hardly can be descriobed as a symbol of Wetsenr imperialism. Its a symbol of (orthodox) Christinaty, sicnbe it was - and is - the most important monument building in this faith. It still includes more original parts from the Byzantinian era, than the Petersdom or any other church is original", I today have read.

In other words, its a political symbol for Christian history and culture. And Erdoghan puts another symbol on top of it: converting it again to Muslim rule, illustrating Islam's superiority that way. Simple minds on the streets buy this kind of narration. Secular Turks probably not, but they are a minority in Turkey, and are in defence. A German newspaper writes that originally the basilica was build for this purpose as well by emperor Justinian: to impress the world of his time with the monumental - and clever - architecture and by that demonstrate superiority and dominance.

xristoskaiti · 07-10-20, 11:41 PM

the problem of germany and turkey that is europe and turkey is that many european industries are in turkey.
that's where it all started

August · 07-11-20, 09:21 AM

Interesting to see the forum religion haters decrying what is essentially a religious matter. Why should they care which group controls it? Or is this really just an attempt to rile up hate against a particular nationality?

Racism comes in many forms. This is one example.

Catfish · 07-11-20, 11:36 AM

This is an entirely political matter and has nothing to do with religion.
Unless you call a cynical abuse of religious matters to bolster up your dictatorship as "religious".
It is all about Erdoghan and his nationalist right-wing followers, and religion is only a token in his game of absolute power.

07-10-20, 11:24 AM	#1
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,788 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	When you open your borders and invite so many different religious beliefs into your country it is hardly surprising surely. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-10-20, 02:17 PM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,696 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The Hagia Sophia hardly can be descriobed as a symbol of Wetsenr imperialism. Its a symbol of (orthodox) Christinaty, sicnbe it was - and is - the most important monument building in this faith. It still includes more original parts from the Byzantinian era, than the Petersdom or any other church is original", I today have read. In other words, its a political symbol for Christian history and culture. And Erdoghan puts another symbol on top of it: converting it again to Muslim rule, illustrating Islam's superiority that way. Simple minds on the streets buy this kind of narration. Secular Turks probably not, but they are a minority in Turkey, and are in defence. A German newspaper writes that originally the basilica was build for this purpose as well by emperor Justinian: to impress the world of his time with the monumental - and clever - architecture and by that demonstrate superiority and dominance. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-11-20, 11:36 AM	#6
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,799 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	This is an entirely political matter and has nothing to do with religion. Unless you call a cynical abuse of religious matters to bolster up your dictatorship as "religious". It is all about Erdoghan and his nationalist right-wing followers, and religion is only a token in his game of absolute power. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

07-10-20, 11:41 PM	#4
xristoskaiti Lieutenant Join Date: May 2007 Location: pireas Posts: 256 Downloads: 482 Uploads: 0	the problem of germany and turkey that is europe and turkey is that many european industries are in turkey. that's where it all started

07-11-20, 09:21 AM	#5
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,221 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Interesting to see the forum religion haters decrying what is essentially a religious matter. Why should they care which group controls it? Or is this really just an attempt to rile up hate against a particular nationality? Racism comes in many forms. This is one example.