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Old 06-11-20, 07:23 AM   #331
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^ The far-far-left senate of Berlin has pushed through a law that reverses the burden of evidence in case of claimed disicrimnation offences. It means that if the police gets accused by somebody that he was "discriminated" in the widest meaning, the claim is now legally seen as evidence as long as the police officers cnanot prove that they did not discriminate.
Well, that’s the stupidest thing I’ve heard today. I believe that’s the definition of “knee-jerk overreaction”.

Do Police need to be held accountable and bought to justice for any abuses of power they commit? Obviously, anyone who would argue otherwise isn’t worth my time. But accusations are not evidence. If you need evidence, just make it illegal for police to turn off their body cams while on duty. That way any abuse of power will be documented.
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Old 06-11-20, 08:23 AM   #332
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What should I say, Berlin's political landscape has always been one of the two worst of the federal states in Germany, currently the senate is made up by a hollow-headed Teflon-socialist of zero courage and zero competentce who always hides away when he would have to make decisions, and the coalition is made of the leftiest Greens in Germany, the communist heirs of the SED, and the socialists. The city is mismanaged since decades, is massively cross-funded by other states, the senate is extremely close to its voter base in the anarchic and squatter scene, lefts, and amongst communists and protest-Greens and friends of Venezuela, ministries are led by quota-women and migrants-because-migrants-are-the-better-beings-and-appeal-to-our-voters (two of them are close to Turkish ultra-nationalists and Islamic fundamentalism), and incompetent diletantees who rate their ideological views higher than necessities dictated by reality, and then unify with the primitve plebs on the street, its all most disgusting, or in short: this senate represents some of the worst in german domestic politics. The opposition is not much better, degenerated in coruption and incompetence since decades. it was messy like this since the 80s already when we lived there for ten years, and my parents lived for another ten year after I left. It never was different, it always was a mess. Berlin is a toilet bowl.

Recent development is that the private patrons of arts and culture flee from the city in scores, three of the most prominent private patrons and collectors in this year alone, the biggest German fashion exhibition also has fled. Not that such an exhibition is important, but it is an image disaster and tells something on the trust of investors into the city. And then there is the airport...

Berlin'S debts amongst all 16 states are the third highest, they are almost as high as that of much bigger Lower Saxony in second, and a third of what Northrine Westphalia has at the top of the list. Only that NW also is much, much, much bigger and has the highest population of all states, and the industry zone of the Ruhr area and according big cities (which practically are one big city).

Well, its Berlin. I know it. I avoid it. If I were a businessman or an investor, at no cost I would consider Berlin. Nowhere else in Germany is the political adminstraiton as incompetent, as in Berlin.
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Old 06-11-20, 08:44 AM   #333
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What if the actual problem is the leftist educational system creating a generation of little entitled sociopaths who have also been taught to hate the USA?
Mrs. Clinton did popularize the proverb "It takes a village to raise a child". However you're making the issue more complicated than it needs to be.

In a nutshell, you have police on one side, criminals on the other, and regular citizens caught in the middle. When police begin treating the majority of the public as "potential criminals" then there is a problem that needs to be addressed.
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Old 06-11-20, 09:40 AM   #334
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... and your exact point was...?...
If I may suggest what the point was.

Even a highly regarded figure like Abraham Lincoln would be suspect by the Red Guards of the Woke Left who intend to leave no cultural icons to their historical greatness. Mao would be proud.
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Old 06-11-20, 09:50 AM   #335
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If I may suggest what the point was.

Even a highly regarded figure like Abraham Lincoln would be suspect by the Red Guards of the Woke Left who intend to leave no cultural icons to their historical greatness. Mao would be proud.
I think you’re confusing social liberals with tankie communists. The left and right aren’t cohesive factions, but rather very loose coalitions. For example, on the right you have Nazis who hate conservatives for their belief in religious and personal freedom, while on the left you have tankies who hate social liberals for being too soft and not extreme enough.

One example of that would be when social liberals talk about Tiananmen Square and Hong Kong, then the tankies come in and start talking about how “no-one was killed, but if they were they were fascists who deserved it”.
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I think you’re confusing social liberals with tankie communists.
I don't think so. The people I am referring to are those with the mistaken belief that tearing down or defacing statues and monuments of long dead people will some how right all the wrongs that our ancestors made. The educational system that brought about this belief needs to be examined and corrected.
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"Those who cannot remember the past are Condemned to repeat it"
I always like to say, "God will let you make a mistake to teach you a lesson"
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I don't think so. The people I am referring to are those with the mistaken belief that tearing down or defacing statues and monuments of long dead people will some how right all the wrongs that our ancestors made. The educational system that brought about this belief needs to be examined and corrected.
I was referring more to the “Red Guard” and “Mao” comments.

Personally, I’m of the opinion that statues of people who committed serious wrongs should be removed if the majority of people want them removed, but not destroyed - rather, placed in a museum where they can be viewed in the proper historical context. For example, by doing this the monument to the Liberty Place white supremacists would no longer glorify those people, but rather educate people about the history and impact of slavery, lynching, etc., in the same way you might see a Nazi flag in a WWII or holocaust museum.
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Seeing these news clips where protesters destroying statues made we wonder where have I seen this behaviour before ?

Oh yes of course from Middle East and Afghanistan.

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Yeah, I had it on my youtube recommandations few days ago.

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I think the exampel from Berlin has taken the fun out of the Onion. Because Berlin is no satire at all. Its reality.
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If I may suggest what the point was.

Even a highly regarded figure like Abraham Lincoln would be suspect by the Red Guards of the Woke Left who intend to leave no cultural icons to their historical greatness. Mao would be proud.

What a load, what a load...





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If I may suggest what the point was.

Even a highly regarded figure like Abraham Lincoln would be suspect by the Red Guards of the Woke Left who intend to leave no cultural icons to their historical greatness. Mao would be proud.
I know, right? One thing we can count on, the left will eventually destroy itself with this lunacy.
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But accusations are not evidence.

True but they are expensive to defend against. Without some form of limited immunity no policeman could long afford lawyers to defend against the avalanche of civil lawsuits that the nature of their work would easily entail.


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I know, right? One thing we can count on, the left will eventually destroy itself with this lunacy.

As long as they don't take the rest of us with them.
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