Run Silent, Run Deep - Page 2

DeepSix · 05-18-06, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FAdmiral

Will the Japanese AI be able to pick up your garbage?
If it does, thats realism !!

JIM

I'm going to make sure that one of my crewmen is named "Kraut" Mueller just to test the AI.

The Noob · 05-18-06, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Let's put it this way: I shouldn't be able to breeze trough Gibraltar simply by going to the lowest speed setting, order silent running, and hug the bottom.

If you are refering to SH3, try this!

1.Go to Data\Cfg
2.Open "Sim.cfg" in notepad.
3.Set the "Sonar Detection time" to something from 15-5.
4.Set the "Hydrophone Noise factor" to 0.3
5.Save the Changes.

And ready are the "Expert Destroyers".

CaptainNemo · 05-19-06, 06:48 AM

Bungo Pete rules ^^

Rosencrantz · 05-19-06, 05:27 PM

Somehow I like third picture in CptnNemos post. Hope we'll see something like that in SHIV.

-RC-

FAdmiral · 05-19-06, 05:49 PM

I have been in the conning tower of the USS Drum (Gato)
It is very small. 5 or 6 men in there, not on my watch....

JIM

Ducimus · 05-25-06, 05:47 PM

I watched the movie the other day on vhs, and its classic hollywood.

The sub is entirely too spacious, and the active sonar pings whenver they were submerged was driving me nuts.

Abraham · 05-25-06, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

I watched the movie the other day on vhs, and its classic hollywood.

The sub is entirely too spacious, and the active sonar pings whenver they were submerged was driving me nuts.

Read the book!
Ten times better than the movie...

05-26-06, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

I watched the movie the other day on vhs, and its classic hollywood.

The sub is entirely too spacious, and the active sonar pings whenver they were submerged was driving me nuts.

U.S. boats had active sonar, I think it was just mentioned in another thread that the Japanese pinged constantly, which helped the subs know where they were, and I think that the interiors were real.

I could easily be wrong on all three points, though.

DeepSix · 05-26-06, 12:33 PM

By Hollywood standards, they took considerable pains to make it accurate. They hired a World War II skipper (Rear Admiral Rob Roy MacGregor - no really, that's his name!) as the official technical adviser and seems like there were actually several submariners involved in some capacity (and of course the book was written by a submariner). They probably took some Hollywood license with the technical details here and there for the sake of establishing atmosphere for the viewer, but overall I think it's amazingly well done.

Ducimus · 05-30-06, 05:23 PM

ive acutally read a number of Edward Beach's books. The active sonar pings bugged me because it was seemingly whenever they were submerged. Thats a classical hollywood gimmick to add mood or atmosphere. Thats how i interpetted it anyway. its like whenver you see a sub in any old movie, what do you hear? *ping* *ping *ping* even when theres nothing around. Call it a pet peeve, but that grates on me. The sub was too spacious in the galley/crew mess. The conning tower and control room seemed semi accurate, but the crew mess was waaaaaaayyyy too big.

DeepSix · 05-30-06, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

...The sub was too spacious in the galley/crew mess. The conning tower and control room seemed semi accurate, but the crew mess was waaaaaaayyyy too big.

Yeah, but you gotta put the camera somewhere.

DeepSix · 05-31-06, 11:40 AM

One thing I noticed in watching the movie is that you only hear the pinging when there are enemy ships about - so it seems like the intention was to portray the constant active ping employed by the Japanese (not the sub pinging).

[OT edit: Also - I noticed that Clark Gable has a very noticeable tremor in most of his scenes... Does anybody know if he had Parkinson's?]

Bungo_Pete · 06-01-06, 09:35 PM

Bungo certainly does rule

got this one on DVD awhile back.

06-15-06, 12:18 PM

I've often posted on how much bigger and more habitable (user friendly?) US fleet boats were than u-boats, but upon watching it again last night I got quite a shock. I was watching one of the scenes with Gable and Lancaster together and I suddenly realized that they weren't in the control room in that scene; they were in the CONNING TOWER! Six men on regular watch plus the skipper and the XO...in the conning tower! In Das Boot there was barely room for the captain and his 1WO! Of course their attack scope was powered and had a seat, but still...

NEON DEON · 06-15-06, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I've often posted on how much bigger and more habitable (user friendly?) US fleet boats were than u-boats, but upon watching it again last night I got quite a shock. I was watching one of the scenes with Gable and Lancaster together and I suddenly realized that they weren't in the control room in that scene; they were in the CONNING TOWER! Six men on regular watch plus the skipper and the XO...in the conning tower! In Das Boot there was barely room for the captain and his 1WO! Of course their attack scope was powered and had a seat, but still...

I got a chance to see the Pampanito in San Fransisco Bay a few years back. A Balao class fleet submarine. Unfortunately they were renovating the conning tower and I could not get in to see it. But the web site has some great shots of the conning tower.

http://www.maritime.org/tour/tctvr.htm

After seeing the pictures of the conning tower, I just have to go back and see her again. While the boat interior appears to be big, you realy have to visit a fleet boat and tour it to get to see how cramped the thing would be to live in for 3 months at a strech with about 80 other guys.

Anyways back to Run Silent, Run Deep. I have convinced my wife to order one less chick flick from Net Flix this week and replace it with this one!

05-19-06, 06:48 AM	#18
CaptainNemo Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany/Essen Posts: 132 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Bungo Pete rules ^^ __________________ www.acesofthedeep.com

05-19-06, 05:49 PM	#20
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I have been in the conning tower of the USS Drum (Gato) It is very small. 5 or 6 men in there, not on my watch.... JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

05-26-06, 12:33 PM	#24
DeepSix Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Music City Posts: 683 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	By Hollywood standards, they took considerable pains to make it accurate. They hired a World War II skipper (Rear Admiral Rob Roy MacGregor - no really, that's his name!) as the official technical adviser and seems like there were actually several submariners involved in some capacity (and of course the book was written by a submariner). They probably took some Hollywood license with the technical details here and there for the sake of establishing atmosphere for the viewer, but overall I think it's amazingly well done. __________________ Jack's happy days will soon be gone, To return again, oh never! For they've raised his pay five cents a day, But they've stopped his grog forever. For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, But tomorrow we'll be sober. - "Farewell to Grog"

05-31-06, 11:40 AM	#27
DeepSix Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Music City Posts: 683 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	One thing I noticed in watching the movie is that you only hear the pinging when there are enemy ships about - so it seems like the intention was to portray the constant active ping employed by the Japanese (not the sub pinging). [OT edit: Also - I noticed that Clark Gable has a very noticeable tremor in most of his scenes... Does anybody know if he had Parkinson's?] __________________ Jack's happy days will soon be gone, To return again, oh never! For they've raised his pay five cents a day, But they've stopped his grog forever. For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, But tomorrow we'll be sober. - "Farewell to Grog" Last edited by DeepSix; 05-31-06 at 11:50 AM.

05-19-06, 05:27 PM	#19
Rosencrantz Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 758 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Somehow I like third picture in CptnNemos post. Hope we'll see something like that in SHIV. -RC-

05-25-06, 05:47 PM	#21
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	I watched the movie the other day on vhs, and its classic hollywood. The sub is entirely too spacious, and the active sonar pings whenver they were submerged was driving me nuts.

05-30-06, 05:23 PM	#25
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	ive acutally read a number of Edward Beach's books. The active sonar pings bugged me because it was seemingly whenever they were submerged. Thats a classical hollywood gimmick to add mood or atmosphere. Thats how i interpetted it anyway. its like whenver you see a sub in any old movie, what do you hear? ping ping ping* even when theres nothing around. Call it a pet peeve, but that grates on me. The sub was too spacious in the galley/crew mess. The conning tower and control room seemed semi accurate, but the crew mess was waaaaaaayyyy too big.

06-01-06, 09:35 PM	#28
Bungo_Pete Medic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Santa Barbara,calif Posts: 159 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Bungo certainly does rule got this one on DVD awhile back.

06-15-06, 12:18 PM	#29
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I've often posted on how much bigger and more habitable (user friendly?) US fleet boats were than u-boats, but upon watching it again last night I got quite a shock. I was watching one of the scenes with Gable and Lancaster together and I suddenly realized that they weren't in the control room in that scene; they were in the CONNING TOWER! Six men on regular watch plus the skipper and the XO...in the conning tower! In Das Boot there was barely room for the captain and his 1WO! Of course their attack scope was powered and had a seat, but still...