Little Help Please

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

Ok, got a copy set to desktop of: " \data\Campaigns\Campaign\Campaign_SCR ", so as I could operate on it, and have run into a snag...

Going to do editing of it, by using the 'find...' option under edit menu, after opening the file up... and then looking for each of these ships:

The "Maxx Albrecht"
The "Bessel"
The "Thalia"
The "Corrientes"
The "Charlotte Schliemann"
The "Brake"
The "Python"

and then changing them to the following:

The "U-Maxx Albrecht"
The U-Bessel:
The U-Thalia"
The U-Corrientes"
The U-Charlotte Schliemann"
The U-Brake"
The U-Python"

am experiencing... no joy


I found the 'Max Albrecht', no problems there... but all the rest...

a big bupkiss...nada... non... zip...

Know that the original Op, used GWX3, but for me.. I find using LSH3, more... enjoyable & it is the one I am using & am trying to rectify not being able to have resupply ships to act as milch cows in regards to ability to pusedo-dock.

Have the bug fix ran for the u boat milch cows to be able to pusedo-dock, now am just trying to see of the surface resupply ships straightened out now.. an then this.

Have tried to find out what the exact listing of surface resupply ship names are, and drawing a big fat goose egg...

Any assistance in pointing me in the right direction to them, will be GREATLY appreciated... thanks.

I've no experience with LSH, but any and all supply ships and u-boats will be listed in the en_help.txt file found at the data\menu path.
Even easier, use the F1 key in game to see the same info.

Regarding docking at them, it should be no different than if you dock at a u-boat; same supplies, same one day advance, etc. If you're using H.sie's fix.

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by John Pancoast

I've no experience with LSH, but any and all supply ships and u-boats will be listed in the en_help.txt file found at the data\menu path.
Even easier, use the F1 key in game to see the same info.

Regarding docking at them, it should be no different than if you dock at a u-boat; same supplies, same one day advance, etc. If you're using H.sie's fix.

With regards to doing the ol' F1 key, with LSH3, doing so.. does not list anything about what uboats or surface resupply ships, are supposed to be available on such & such x date...

However, I shall see of looking up the en_help.txt file & see if it does indeed hold a list of the subs & surface ships assigned to handle resupply. Thank you for giving me a place to look, that I didn't think of or consider.

As for the surfaace ships with the fix, it states that you have to manually change them so that they read as like being the subs, but still being a surface ship.

From the section provided by h.sie on the u-tanker fix, pertanant part made red to point them out & slightly enlarged, so as to stand out from the rest of the section...

"This is from the LSH3-2015 HSIE manual

12. U-Tanker Mod (LSH)
Everyone complains that, when you dock at a U-tanker in mid-ocean, you lose all your current renown/tonnage for medal purposes, you get a full refuelling, full repairs, full torpedo load-out and you lose the patrol grid which BdU ordered. And then you start again from the tanker a month after you docked! (unless using SH3Patrol or SH3Commander). No longer! Now you 'pseudo-dock' at the U-tanker. When you are close enough, you press ESCAPE, then 'Exit Patrol', just as if you were planning to dock. However... when you are asked 'Continue mission' or 'Dock at U-463' (for example), you click on 'Continue Mission'!!! *Now* you get 1-4 air torpedoes (loaded only into the first 4 slots of the fore internal reserve - so make sure there is space enough!), you retain the patrol grid details, you receive some repairs to your hull-integrity (but not to equipment) and you receive a fuel upgrade, of up to 30% of the full capacity. Unlike conventional docking at a base, pseudo-docking is only possible if there is no 'heavy fog' and wind speed must be 10 m/s or less. After having (pseudo-)docked at an U-Tanker, you can (pseudo-)dock again after 2 weeks. Also, you can only pseudo-dock at U-tankers, not at surface tankers (e.g. Brake), nor at land bases. You can still choose to dock in the old way, if you wish. If you want this mod to also work with surface tankers, these must be renamed e.g. from "Brake" into "U-Brake" in the campaign files. (Fix by Stiebler and h.sie)

In short, from what I have gleaned means that the ''U-" needs added to the surface resupply ship names so as to facilitate making them act like the resupply uboats, yet retain their appearance as surface ships.

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

With regards to doing the ol' F1 key, with LSH3, doing so.. does not list anything about what uboats or surface resupply ships, are supposed to be available on such & such x date...

However, I shall see of looking up the en_help.txt file & see if it does indeed hold a list of the subs & surface ships assigned to handle resupply. Thank you for giving me a place to look, that I didn't think of or consider.

As for the surfaace ships with the fix, it states that you have to manually change them so that they read as like being the subs, but still being a surface ship.

From the section provided by h.sie on the u-tanker fix, pertanant part made red to point them out & slightly enlarged, so as to stand out from the rest of the section...

"This is from the LSH3-2015 HSIE manual

12. U-Tanker Mod (LSH)
Everyone complains that, when you dock at a U-tanker in mid-ocean, you lose all your current renown/tonnage for medal purposes, you get a full refuelling, full repairs, full torpedo load-out and you lose the patrol grid which BdU ordered. And then you start again from the tanker a month after you docked! (unless using SH3Patrol or SH3Commander). No longer! Now you 'pseudo-dock' at the U-tanker. When you are close enough, you press ESCAPE, then 'Exit Patrol', just as if you were planning to dock. However... when you are asked 'Continue mission' or 'Dock at U-463' (for example), you click on 'Continue Mission'!!! *Now* you get 1-4 air torpedoes (loaded only into the first 4 slots of the fore internal reserve - so make sure there is space enough!), you retain the patrol grid details, you receive some repairs to your hull-integrity (but not to equipment) and you receive a fuel upgrade, of up to 30% of the full capacity. Unlike conventional docking at a base, pseudo-docking is only possible if there is no 'heavy fog' and wind speed must be 10 m/s or less. After having (pseudo-)docked at an U-Tanker, you can (pseudo-)dock again after 2 weeks. Also, you can only pseudo-dock at U-tankers, not at surface tankers (e.g. Brake), nor at land bases. You can still choose to dock in the old way, if you wish. If you want this mod to also work with surface tankers, these must be renamed e.g. from "Brake" into "U-Brake" in the campaign files. (Fix by Stiebler and h.sie)

In short, from what I have gleaned means that the ''U-" needs added to the surface resupply ship names so as to facilitate making them act like the resupply uboats, yet retain their appearance as surface ships.

If they're not listed via the F1 key, they won't be in the help.txt file either; that is where the F1 key info. comes from.
Which is strange and leads to think the necessary files for the rest of the ships aren't in LSH, but not sure.

Regarding docking, I've docked at the ships without renaming them and followed the same procedure as with a u-tanker and had the same results as if I was at a u-tanker. Strange again. Though I've not done so in LSH, only other installs.

[Hebe Vollmaus]

The information needed is there!

LSH3 v5:
F1-key >>RESUPPLY/MARINEVERSORGER<<
= SH3\data\Menu\en/de_help.txt

LSH3 v15 (also known as LSH3 2015):
F1-key (upper right corner) >>Drag-Map<< "VERSORGER"
= SH3\data\Menu\Gui\Layout\drag_versorger_1044.tga

HTH

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by Hebe Vollmaus

The information needed is there!

LSH3 v5:
F1-key >>RESUPPLY/MARINEVERSORGER<<
= SH3\data\Menu\en/de_help.txt

LSH3 v15 (also known as LSH3 2015):
F1-key (upper right corner) >>Drag-Map<< "VERSORGER"
= SH3\data\Menu\Gui\Layout\drag_versorger_1044.tga

HTH

Maybe a bad install or something.

[Hebe Vollmaus]

Originally Posted by John Pancoast

Maybe a bad install or something.

There are also the last words in the quoted paragraph 12:
(colored in red) "This is already prepared in LSH3 2015."

Greetings.

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by Hebe Vollmaus

There are also the last words in the quoted paragraph 12:
(colored in red) "This is already prepared in LSH3 2015."

Greetings.

Hopefully Mad Mardigan sees your info.

[Mad Mardigan]

Originally Posted by Hebe Vollmaus

The information needed is there!

LSH3 v5:
F1-key >>RESUPPLY/MARINEVERSORGER<<
= SH3\data\Menu\en/de_help.txt

LSH3 v15 (also known as LSH3 2015):
F1-key (upper right corner) >>Drag-Map<< "VERSORGER"
= SH3\data\Menu\Gui\Layout\drag_versorger_1044.tga

HTH

Hebe, thanks for this bit of info... with it, was able to locate the pull down listing.

Somehow in searching, while in the game... I missed it



No clear idea what led to me missing it.. guess put it down to 1 of those 'how'd I miss that' moments... embarassing when it happens but you move on & hopefully don't make that mistake again sometime down the line... *sighs*

Any way.. found the info I was wanting to know & can now proceed to check things out & see if any editing needs doing.. or not...

Originally Posted by John Pancoast

Maybe a bad install or something.

Seeing as how I found it, am figuring it was a case of pushing too far, too fast & not enough sleep, coffee or a moment of frustration, that causes you to miss info that otherwise would slap you in the face & scream... 'HERE I AM.!", if not a combo of any or all of them.

To all who answered, and worked to assist me...

A hearty thanks...

[John Pancoast]

Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

Hebe, thanks for this bit of info... with it, was able to locate the pull down listing.

Somehow in searching, while in the game... I missed it



No clear idea what led to me missing it.. guess put it down to 1 of those 'how'd I miss that' moments... embarassing when it happens but you move on & hopefully don't make that mistake again sometime down the line... *sighs*

Any way.. found the info I was wanting to know & can now proceed to check things out & see if any editing needs doing.. or not...



Seeing as how I found it, am figuring it was a case of pushing too far, too fast & not enough sleep, coffee or a moment of frustration, that causes you to miss info that otherwise would slap you in the face & scream... 'HERE I AM.!", if not a combo of any or all of them.

To all who answered, and worked to assist me...

A hearty thanks...

Easy to do, glad you have it sorted !