Big Brother is now very real in London, England

Armistead · 01-24-20, 07:48 PM

I hope our constitution here in the USA {4th} would stop this from happening.

Skybird · 01-24-20, 09:24 PM

Read Snowden's book and be scared of how far they have left your precious constitution behind already.

In Europe and practically everywhere as wlel they have or want to make orivate encyption illegal. the use of VPNs also should be prohibited.

The NSA records and stores EVERYTHING. Bush'S malicous nargument was that this doe sniot reprresent a violation of laws porevcenting the reaidng of private data, since the data is only kept for all time to come, and a viollaiton of privacy only takes place when the data gets scanned and analyssed automatically. which all the tiem happens. Thats why Snowden'S book was entitled "PERMANENT record". Today we have the tehcnolgoy to maitnain pratcialyl unlimited data storage capacity, and thanbks to automatizatio nall thsi can be done without neeidng millions of spies overhearing your private conversations.

Can the book even be bought in the US? Lats time I heared about it, the government tried to prohibit the selling of it in the US, arguing they do ot want Snowden to generate an income from it. The sales prohibition probably does not get through, but they want or already do confiscate all profits generated from it. They do not want people to read what he says - that is the real reason behind it.

Your govenrment has already sold your constitution and legal protections away, and betrays you from A to Z. Wake up, Armistead. You are living in a long forgotten historic past telling the narration of an ideal and morally superior American utopia. Its a lie.

The tragedy is that many of you US citizens are not aware of the history of Snowden'S family and their proud service generations of them has provided to your country. Edward took high risks and accpeted enormous perosnal sacrifices to serve you once again. And you see him as and treat him like a mean traitor driven by low motives. Nothing could be further from the truth.

You owe to him. But you treat him like a traitor. Because he spoiled your self-assuring dreams about how well it all is in your world. It isn't.

Onkel Neal · 01-24-20, 09:26 PM

Time to break out the fashion tools

Good luck with that, British police.

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Thank god this can never be abused by police, secret service, government or any rogue hacker [/sarcasm]
Europe can ban that for five years or whatever period they say, it will come nonetheless. What can be done, will be done, everywhere.
George Orwell's "Big Brother" was a bloody amateur, and in reality total control will not necessarilay be abused by a left dictatorship.

Sometimes i think the american take on guns has its advantages

We can resist, if necessary. 200,000 farmers and ranchers in Texas, armed to the teeth. They may take us but it won't be easy.

Skybird · 01-24-20, 09:51 PM

They already have you sacked. You pay them. You do what they want you to do. Day in and day out.

Voting results come and go. The players in the shadows always stay. They want to distract you. You play their game. Day in and day out.

This is not Bonanza, Mr. Cartwright. This is Machiavelli's game. This is the post-William Gibson era. The future you stand guard against, already is your history. You have fallen out of time.

ikalugin · 01-26-20, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Time to break out the fashion tools

Good luck with that, British police.

We can resist, if necessary. 200,000 farmers and ranchers in Texas, armed to the teeth. They may take us but it won't be easy.

One simple solution - outlaw face coverings other than Burquas.

Onkel Neal · 01-26-20, 11:53 AM

Outlaw facial hair as well?

What do you mean, "other than burquas"? That's ok ?

Aktungbby · 01-26-20, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Outlaw facial hair as well?

What do you mean, "other than burquas"? That's ok ?

actually our Chinese friends may have come up with the simple solution to it all..."SO SARRY I'M FIGHTING CORONA VIRUS"

OR AS IN CALIFORNIA JUST BAD AIR QUALITY WILL SUFFICE...

AND THEN THRE'S THE HIGHTECH SOLUTION:

https://dornob.com/evade-facial-recognition-software-with-this-anti-ai-mask/

Aktungbby · 02-01-20, 12:17 PM

HOLY SMOKES! They read my posts in Hong Kong!

This AM's WSJ: Hong Kong Chief executive, Carrie Lam has chnged her mind (law aginst protesters wearing masks during demonstrations)...and appeared in public wearing a surgical mask, marking a shift in the government's policies on containing a deadly virus outbreak that has refocused protesters. Before the outbreak the government which had banned masks-widely used by prtesters. On Tuesday, Mrs. Lam and other top Hong Kong officials showed up in masks...protesters are demanding alll mainland visitors be barred from Hong Kong. Mrs Lam has instigated a partial shutdown of rail and air traffic; mainland traffic including traffic from Hubei, the province at the outbreak's center, have dropped 91%

Catfish · 02-01-20, 12:46 PM

yes.. seems the chinese leadership is not quite able to either contain this corona infection and otherwise convince its people not to wear masks to evade face recognition. As far as i know those face masks are of no use anyway.

Otherwise although one would think different, face recognition via hidden surveillance is much more effective and developed (read: intrusive) in London. I know it is only done with the best of intentions here.. but so easy to abuse.

"BBC News – Met Police roll out facial recognition across London":
https://bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/all-m...across-london/

The Metropolitan Police have announced they will be rolling out live facial recognition cameras across London,
despite serious concerns over its accuracy and privacy implication. The technology, which has no legal basis, has proven racial and gender bias.

01-24-20, 07:48 PM	#1
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I hope our constitution here in the USA {4th} would stop this from happening. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

01-24-20, 09:24 PM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,665 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Read Snowden's book and be scared of how far they have left your precious constitution behind already. In Europe and practically everywhere as wlel they have or want to make orivate encyption illegal. the use of VPNs also should be prohibited. The NSA records and stores EVERYTHING. Bush'S malicous nargument was that this doe sniot reprresent a violation of laws porevcenting the reaidng of private data, since the data is only kept for all time to come, and a viollaiton of privacy only takes place when the data gets scanned and analyssed automatically. which all the tiem happens. Thats why Snowden'S book was entitled "PERMANENT record". Today we have the tehcnolgoy to maitnain pratcialyl unlimited data storage capacity, and thanbks to automatizatio nall thsi can be done without neeidng millions of spies overhearing your private conversations. Can the book even be bought in the US? Lats time I heared about it, the government tried to prohibit the selling of it in the US, arguing they do ot want Snowden to generate an income from it. The sales prohibition probably does not get through, but they want or already do confiscate all profits generated from it. They do not want people to read what he says - that is the real reason behind it. Your govenrment has already sold your constitution and legal protections away, and betrays you from A to Z. Wake up, Armistead. You are living in a long forgotten historic past telling the narration of an ideal and morally superior American utopia. Its a lie. The tragedy is that many of you US citizens are not aware of the history of Snowden'S family and their proud service generations of them has provided to your country. Edward took high risks and accpeted enormous perosnal sacrifices to serve you once again. And you see him as and treat him like a mean traitor driven by low motives. Nothing could be further from the truth. You owe to him. But you treat him like a traitor. Because he spoiled your self-assuring dreams about how well it all is in your world. It isn't. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-24-20, 09:51 PM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,665 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	They already have you sacked. You pay them. You do what they want you to do. Day in and day out. Voting results come and go. The players in the shadows always stay. They want to distract you. You play their game. Day in and day out. This is not Bonanza, Mr. Cartwright. This is Machiavelli's game. This is the post-William Gibson era. The future you stand guard against, already is your history. You have fallen out of time. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

02-01-20, 12:17 PM	#8
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,033 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	HOLY SMOKES! They read my posts in Hong Kong! This AM's WSJ: Hong Kong Chief executive, Carrie Lam has chnged her mind (law aginst protesters wearing masks during demonstrations)...and appeared in public wearing a surgical mask, marking a shift in the government's policies on containing a deadly virus outbreak that has refocused protesters. Before the outbreak the government which had banned masks-widely used by prtesters. On Tuesday, Mrs. Lam and other top Hong Kong officials showed up in masks...protesters are demanding alll mainland visitors be barred from Hong Kong. Mrs Lam has instigated a partial shutdown of rail and air traffic; mainland traffic including traffic from Hubei, the province at the outbreak's center, have dropped 91% __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!! Last edited by Aktungbby; 02-01-20 at 11:11 PM. Reason: Properly oranging text

02-01-20, 12:46 PM	#9
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,776 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	yes.. seems the chinese leadership is not quite able to either contain this corona infection and otherwise convince its people not to wear masks to evade face recognition. As far as i know those face masks are of no use anyway. Otherwise although one would think different, face recognition via hidden surveillance is much more effective and developed (read: intrusive) in London. I know it is only done with the best of intentions here.. but so easy to abuse. "BBC News – Met Police roll out facial recognition across London": https://bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/all-m...across-london/ The Metropolitan Police have announced they will be rolling out live facial recognition cameras across London, despite serious concerns over its accuracy and privacy implication. The technology, which has no legal basis, has proven racial and gender bias. __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 02-01-20 at 12:58 PM.*

01-26-20, 11:53 AM	#6
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Outlaw facial hair as well? What do you mean, "other than burquas"? That's ok ?