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Old 01-10-20, 08:34 PM   #1
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https://www.wdsu.com/article/watch-r...-sea/30469977#

Other angle of the incident
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/r...-navy-n1113501

What's up with all the Russkie ships doing this? Are the US ships trespassing in Russian waters? Are the Russian crews stupid-bad drivers who cannot keep a safe distance? Is this a case of "Ooh, we're scary Russians, we play chicken of the sea with you!"

WTH, they should be happy that's not my ship, I would have brake-checked the hell outta them

This is a recon/intel collecting ship, not a warship, operating outside of US territorial waters (note the region - Arabian sea).

Western intel collecting ships are a regular feature at Russian exercises.
I seem to recall one trying to fish out a hard kill counter torpedo.

So seems like over reaction. Note how we do not see the Russian ship being in front of the US ship,
so the video does not clarify who had the right of way.
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Old 01-11-20, 06:26 AM   #2
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Apparently the starboard ship has the right of way, which is interesting in the context of the video.

As to the close operations - one of such cases, here you can see a Polish intel gathering ship operating during Russian life fire exercise and blocking the sector. The crew held fire till it left the dangerous zone.


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Old 01-11-20, 07:10 AM   #3
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This is a recon/intel collecting ship,

Ah, It was an action for gathering information of the US ship. Getting as close as possible naturally gave the best results.
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Old 01-11-20, 08:37 AM   #5
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No, it compares all to that silly walk ceremony at the Pakistani-Indian border cropssing of Wagah. Hilarious. Military history is full of examples where fighters turned into peacocks and then into lame ducks when civilizational development and new technology overtook their old ways of armouring and arming themselves and trying to fight in old ways. The dvelopment of body armour of medieval knights that got overrolled by the new age, is a good exmaple. Asia and Europe alike.



I do not find it either entertaining, nor military-style. Just ridiculous. And I do not mean the Wagah ceremony only, but this standoff at sea as well. Simply ridiculous, and unwanted. Testosterone pumping up chests and ironing faces.



As I said: if being in command, I would ruin both captains' days. Both behaved stupid, and irresponsibly. If repeating such foolish behaviour, they would be soon on their way out of my navy.
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