Iran/US conflict - Page 13

mapuc · 01-04-20, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

I dont foresee any grand escalation or invasion. I think we will just beef up security at our embassies and prepare to respond to any further threats.

In regards go the Straits of Hormuz I agree with Onkle its not that vital for us but it most certainly is for others. I'm guessing Denmark falls under 'other'

Denmark is like Norway, UK and other european countries an oil producing country..

I can't give any link, now that I use my smart tv as browser.

Markus

Tchocky · 01-04-20, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

I dont foresee any grand escalation or invasion.

Check out the Twitter feed of the current President.

52 sites selected to represent the 52 US hostages.

Some selected for their cultural importance.

I mean that's a war crime, but I guess I don't see any grand escalation either.

:Roll:

Mr Quatro · 01-04-20, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Check out the Twitter feed of the current President.

52 sites selected to represent the 52 US hostages.

Some selected for their cultural importance.

I mean that's a war crime, but I guess I don't see any grand escalation either.

:Roll:

Come on Tchocky Trump is a card player ... It's just a warning

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"We have ... targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran" and "if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets... Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD," Trump wrote in a series of tweets.

Tchocky · 01-04-20, 07:36 PM

Well I'm just glad that level-headed people not prone to impulsive scattershot decisions are in charge

Mr Quatro · 01-04-20, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Well I'm just glad that level-headed people not prone to impulsive scattershot decisions are in charge

Are you waiting at the airport for your plane to take off?

August · 01-04-20, 07:50 PM

Yeah we're known for destroying sites of cultural importance.

Rockstar · 01-04-20, 08:00 PM

Published September of 2010. Is still a good read and I think it reveals what is going on now has much more to do with than just Iran. Especially when you consider the vast majority of oil shipping through the straits is destined for a certain particular Asian market. This situation we see today unfolding has been long in the making.

https://www.cna.org/CNA_files/PDF/D0023622.A3.pdf

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A Closer Look at China-Iran Relations Roundtable Report

Participants discussed China’s strategic calculus toward Iran. One referred to a recent speech given by Chinese Middle East scholar Wu Bingbing at the Wilson Center, in which he summed up China’s strategy in the Persian Gulf region as follows:
1.Refuse any single power’s unilateral control of the region
2.Prevent the emergence of any anti-Chinese regime in the region
3.Oppose formal support of Taiwan independence forces or other separatist forces in China by Gulf countries
4.Pursue potential support from the Gulf region for China’s foreign policy...

One participant argued that China is signing deals with Iran with a larger regional security strategy in mind, and cited a 2000 article by Tang Shiping in China’s influential Strategy and Management journal. According to this article, the United States already controls the west bank of the Persian Gulf through its proxy states, including Saudi Arabia and its smaller Gulf neighbors. This makes the Persian Gulf, in effect, an “internal sea” for the United States. Shiping argues, however, that if China and Russia were to build an “axis” of relations with Iran, they could maintain a “minimum balance” to thwart U.S. moves to embargo or control energy flows from the Gulf, since the success of such actions would require control over both the west and east banks...

Reading the report I'm beginning to believe we really upped the ante by targeting that Iranian General. Makes me think it was meant to send a seriously strong message to Iranian and Chinese leadership. You're next. Getting kinda scary now, huh?

Catfish · 01-05-20, 06:47 AM

^ Now that is scary

When Trump's will (is that the same what the US really want?) is to drive the whole Middle East into China's arms, he is doing a good job.

After all Iran has done nothing else than it did years before, so why now this attack? Wasn't pulling out of the nuclear deal enough to destabilize for now?

Trump "foresaw" (lol) Obama starting a war to win a second election. Didn't happen. Maybe Trump thinks it may help him. Domestic political problems use to get out of medial focus with a real war

Only that this Scrotus is a gambler, and what happens if he loses.

Jimbuna · 01-05-20, 08:13 AM

The Royal Navy have a meagre two warships on station in the Strait of Hormuz (HMS Montrose frigate and the HMS Defender destroyer) to help protect the flow of oil should they be necessary.

It would be nice if our European allies would also contribute.

mapuc · 01-05-20, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The Royal Navy have a meagre two warships on station in the Strait of Hormuz (HMS Montrose frigate and the HMS Defender destroyer) to help protect the flow of oil should they be necessary.

It would be nice if our European allies would also contribute.

Denmark is sending a Frigate, 1 helicopyer and 155 men.

They shall be part of an American task force.

From memory
Denmark(government) have made an option to send more stuff to the region if needed.

Markus

Mr Quatro · 01-05-20, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The Royal Navy have a meagre two warships on station in the Strait of Hormuz (HMS Montrose frigate and the HMS Defender destroyer) to help protect the flow of oil should they be necessary.

It would be nice if our European allies would also contribute.

France and Germany have agreed to join us if Iran retaliates ,,,

It's the Iranian people that I want to join us in seeing how corrupt their regime has become

mapuc · 01-05-20, 10:25 AM

(An off topic thought from the bible)

Are we heading towards Armageddon ?

End of an off topic thought...

Markus

Mr Quatro · 01-05-20, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

(An off topic thought from the bible)

Are we heading towards Armageddon ?

End of an off topic thought...

Markus

No we are not, "Wars and rumors of wars, but the end is not yet in sight" Book of St Luke

Skybird · 01-05-20, 11:46 AM

Iraqi parliament voted for a resolution demanding that all US troops have to leave.

Rockstar · 01-05-20, 11:58 AM

Article I read said ALL foreign troops and everyone knows how that will work out. You go first, no you go first, no you go first, no you go first....

http://news.trust.org/item/20200105141444-bjkfk

01-04-20, 07:36 PM	#184
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Well I'm just glad that level-headed people not prone to impulsive scattershot decisions are in charge __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

01-04-20, 07:50 PM	#186
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,233 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah we're known for destroying sites of cultural importance. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

01-05-20, 06:47 AM	#188
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,806 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ Now that is scary When Trump's will (is that the same what the US really want?) is to drive the whole Middle East into China's arms, he is doing a good job. After all Iran has done nothing else than it did years before, so why now this attack? Wasn't pulling out of the nuclear deal enough to destabilize for now? Trump "foresaw" (lol) Obama starting a war to win a second election. Didn't happen. Maybe Trump thinks it may help him. Domestic political problems use to get out of medial focus with a real war Only that this Scrotus is a gambler, and what happens if he loses. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

01-05-20, 08:13 AM	#189
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,051 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The Royal Navy have a meagre two warships on station in the Strait of Hormuz (HMS Montrose frigate and the HMS Defender destroyer) to help protect the flow of oil should they be necessary. It would be nice if our European allies would also contribute. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-05-20, 11:46 AM	#194
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,727 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Iraqi parliament voted for a resolution demanding that all US troops have to leave. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-05-20, 10:25 AM	#192
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,572 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	(An off topic thought from the bible) Are we heading towards Armageddon ? End of an off topic thought... Markus

01-05-20, 11:58 AM	#195
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Article I read said ALL foreign troops and everyone knows how that will work out. You go first, no you go first, no you go first, no you go first.... http://news.trust.org/item/20200105141444-bjkfk