Climate Change

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by August

Told ya that global warming was the only thing staving off the next ice age.

I live in Iceland.

If you think there isn't visible and measurable damage being caused here by climate change you'd be wrong. Look at Okjökull.

None of that is changed by a bad storm dumping a lot of snow.



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[Rockstar]

Did it ever occur to anyone attending the Okjökull funeral. The glacier most likely melted because it was within a volcano's crater located in the active West Volcanic Zone segment of Mid-Atlantic Ocean Rift System?

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Did it ever occur to anyone attending the Okjökull funeral. The glacier most likely melted because it was within a volcano's crater located in the active West Volcanic Zone segment of Mid-Atlantic Ocean Rift System?

You're definitely the first person to think of this.

I'm sure none of the climatologicists thought of it.




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[Rockstar]

Ahhh no I am not the first person to think about this. Maybe a climate activist or politician would thought about it. But I seriously doubt someone involved in the scientific study of our climate, geology or volcanology would have thought to have a funeral and blame themselves for a glacier that melted over a freaking volcano of all things. Especially when just three miles away to the NW on another volcano sits a crap ton of ice.

What the hell happened to common sense? Obviously the CIA has perfected the evil Bush Cheney weather machine enabling it affect targeted areas.





https://principia-scientific.org/und...climate-change

[August]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

I live in Iceland.

If you think there isn't visible and measurable damage being caused here by climate change you'd be wrong. Look at Okjökull.

None of that is changed by a bad storm dumping a lot of snow.



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It was a joke.


Some folks like to blame every little burp and hiccup on human activity but the fact is that the climate is always changing, especially on volcanic island like Iceland where one eruption can turn winter into summer.

Until someone can reliably determine how much change is human caused versus natural this argument is never going to end. Personally I think it's something on the order of 98/02% Natural/man made.

[moose1am]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

I live in Iceland.

If you think there isn't visible and measurable damage being caused here by climate change you'd be wrong. Look at Okjökull.

None of that is changed by a bad storm dumping a lot of snow.



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all you guys should listen to the US Admirals who are complaining about the melting of the ice in the summer up in the Artic allowing more enemy russian subs to sail up there. That causes the admirals ulcers at night.

Listen to the American Admirals and 90 % of the scientists that are not beholding to the Fossil Fuel industry.

I mean in the summer you can see the ice vanishing from the glaciers. What more proof do you need? Open your eyes and look around.

BTW in the winter in the northern hemisphere it's hotter than He(( in the southern hemisphere. Look what is happening down in Australia. It's burning up. If you don't know about the differences in climate in the two hemispheres caused by the tile of the earth's axis and our position in our orbit around the sun then go back to high school science class and learn something.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by moose1am

... Look what is happening down in Australia. It's burning up. If you don't know about the differences in climate in the two hemispheres caused by the tile of the earth's axis and our position in our orbit around the sun then go back to high school science class and learn something.

24 Australians arrested for deliberately setting fires this season
https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=68108272

[Dowly]

The area burned by fires started by arson is miniscule.


Worsening of the bushfire season due to climate change has been predicted since the 80s.

[Rockstar]

ya theres been lots of predictions

https://principia-scientific.org/doz...past-80-years/

2006: Gore says the world will reach a point of no return (whatever that is) by 2016. It’s now 2019; if we reached a point of no return three years ago, I must have missed it.

2007; He says the Greenland ice cap, which contains 8% of the world’s ice, would be gone
by 2017. The ice cap is now thicker in 2019 than it was in 2007.

2009: He predicted that the Arctic would be ice-free by 2014. Wrong again.

• Now Hansen:

1986: Global temperatures will rise 0.45C by 1997. Even alarmist scientists agree it
was a quarter of that.
1986: The Earth will be 2C warmer by 2006. It wasn’t. Still isn’t.

• And then there’s Prince Charles:

2009: “We have 96 months to alter our behaviour before we risk catastrophic climate change and the unimaginable horror that this would bring”. Well, you don’t get much more graphic than that. 96 months later in 2015, there were few signs of imminent catastrophe, so he moved the goalposts, saying we actually have another 35 years to avert disaster. That would bring us to 2050. In 2050, Charles will be 102. I doubt anyone will be listening to him then, either.

[Catfish]

What did AL Gore say?

2006: Gore says the world will reach a point of no return (whatever that is) by 2016.
It’s now 2019; if we reached a point of no return three years ago, I must have missed it.
Seems you missed it, though the exact time maybe debatable it is most probably not reversible now.

2007; He says the Greenland ice cap, which contains 8% of the world’s ice, would be gone by 2017. The ice cap is now thicker in 2019 than it was in 2007. Lie. Which drugs does the OP take? Now thicker?
It seems it has not entirely melted yet alright
https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-po...-fared-in-2019
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-than-in-1990s

2009: He predicted that the Arctic would be ice-free by 2014. Wrong again.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...rctic-be-gone/

It is important to remember that SMB is always positive at the end of the year – more snow falls on the ice sheet than melts at the surface. But the ice sheet also loses ice by the breaking off, or “calving”, of icebergs and from ocean melting at its edge. Therefore, the extra snowfall is needed in order to compensate for these processes.

Observations collected by the European Space Agency’s Sentinel-2 satellite measure ice velocity of outlet glaciers around the edges of the ice sheet. By measuring how quickly the ice moves into the ocean we can work out how much ice is being lost by calving and ocean melting.

On average between 1986 and 2018, the ice sheet discharges about 462bn tonnes per year. This year our analysis suggests Greenland discharged around 498bn tonnes of ice.

Factoring in these additional processes, we can calculate the total mass budget for the ice sheet for the year. For 2018-19, we estimate the ice sheet has seen a total net ice loss of around 329bn tonnes.

Ah whatever, it's like with the UFOs "i want to believe".

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Catfish

What did AL Gore say?

2006: Gore says the world will reach a point of no return (whatever that is) by 2016.
It’s now 2019; if we reached a point of no return three years ago, I must have missed it.
Seems you missed it, though the exact time maybe debatable it is most probably not reversible now.

2007; He says the Greenland ice cap, which contains 8% of the world’s ice, would be gone by 2017. The ice cap is now thicker in 2019 than it was in 2007. Lie. Which drugs does the OP take? Now thicker?
It seems it has not entirely melted yet alright
https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-po...-fared-in-2019
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-than-in-1990s

2009: He predicted that the Arctic would be ice-free by 2014. Wrong again.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...rctic-be-gone/



Ah whatever, it's like with the UFOs "i want to believe".

Actually he did make such claims in 2006 while promoting his blockbuster drama and science fiction thriller "An Inconvenient Truth". As chronicled by CBS news. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/2006-al...does-sundance/


As for the Gores other predictions about ice caps melting, rising CO2 levels, temperatures, and cats and dogs living together, they were captured forever on the film An Inconvenient Truth.