US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

The rule of normal civilized adults who want to have an actual debate, not the circus that this thread is turning into.

"Normal civilized adults" perhaps would read the comparison and see if it fits instead of sticking to something as irrelevant as it being a nazi comparison.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Dowly

"Normal civilized adults" perhaps would read the comparison and see if it fits instead of sticking to something as irrelevant as it being a nazi comparison.

Does not surprise that you are unable to grasp the concept, as I said it is a rule among "normal civilized adults".

[Skybird]

Lil' Boy and the rules of civilised adults debating, mentioned in one thread. Oh the irony!

Or should I say: oh the projection? Referring to the psychological defence mechanism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

I am tempted to demand projection being renamed as trumponitis major.

[Mr Quatro]

You know what's blinding most people to President Trump in their views of him as president is not his faults, but the fact that they forget Hillary Clinton did not win the nomination to become POTUS.

I will always be thankful that she did not win ... so glad this thread is not about all of her mistakes.

[Skybird]

I just read that where other megalomanic tyrants build monuments and palaces and alleys for their own memorial and celebration, Trump tries to immortalize himself in mankind'S memory by building a huge wall between Colorado and Mexico. Now that is a monumental task that deeply impresses me. If he mamages that, it will mean the compoetion of a really monumentally monumental task. And the loss of quite some terrioriy of the United States, but I think that is a small price for such greatness on display.



Meanwhile:





Wowh. I love it when little boys playing psychopath are so clear and straight in their language. And even if nobody chuckles, I still laugh out loud and wide.



And later on, Fox' interview with WH speaker Stephanie Grisham on the tweet shows that still nobody does Fox stuff better than Fox. Its not the first masterpiece of agitation and propaganda that these two produce in close collaboration.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

so glad this thread is not about all of her mistakes.

I have a theory. It is because she is not president right now, as you correctly have noted, and currently is no big problem.

[Dowly]

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by u crank

So now you are comparing the actions of elected members of Congress with stormtroopers? Priceless. What do you think of secret inquiries being held? Is there an historical precedent there?

Exactly. Am I mistaken or are these hearings being done in secret, excluding Republican lawmaker participation?

If that is correct, Skybird's comparison is baseless.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Dowly

But her emails

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Exactly. Am I mistaken or are these hearings being done in secret, excluding Republican lawmaker participation?

No, every member of the committee(s) are allowed to be present, including Republicans.


There's nothing 'secret' about it, it's a closed hearing and has happened many many many many many times before.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Exactly. Am I mistaken or are these hearings being done in secret, excluding Republican lawmaker participation?

If that is correct, Skybird's comparison is baseless.

I quote again:

The inquiry is led by a Democrat - Adam Schiff - and being run by the House Intelligence, Oversight and Foreign Affairs committees.
However, more than 40 Republicans are members of those committees, and permitted to take part in the hearings.

Democrats have argued that it is common for the initial stages of a congressional investigation to be conducted behind closed doors, and say private hearings are needed at the start, to stop witnesses from coordinating their testimony.

"The special counsels in the Nixon and Clinton impeachments conducted their investigations in private and we must initially do the same," Mr Schiff wrote in a letter to colleagues.

Those storming Reps appeared short after the Lil' Boy slammed Republican party for not giving him the support he wanted to see, and called his followers to "getting tough".



The message was heared.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Dowly

No, every member of the committee(s) are allowed to be present, including Republicans.


There's nothing 'secret' about it, it's a closed hearing and has happened many many many many many times before.

Ok, I am looking at NPR, and CBS news websites, they are calling this closed hearings and they do not describe Republicans having access.

On the Washington Post it says all Republicans on the three committees involved in the inquiry, intelligence foreign affairs and oversight, are allowed into the hearings. So, that means that there are Republicans in these closed-door hearings, correct?

[eddie]

Yes Neal, there are Republicans on the committees having these meetings. The ones that stormed the meeting yesterday, are ones that are not on the committee.

[Onkel Neal]

Ok, thanks for the confirmation. Sounds like Rush Limbaugh has his facts wrong, he's going on and on about these hearings excluding Republicans.

let's face it, from day one the Democrats have been trying to impeach this president.

On the other hand, he's making it pretty easy.

Still, glad Bill Clinton's wife is not president.

[em2nought]

I miss the warpaint, feathers, and tomahawks. Armani is overrated.